26.05 - 03.06 BG-GR-MK-SRB

[RuInCV]

In perioada mentionata intentionez sa fac urmatorul traseu : https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/Bucure%C8%99ti/Bansko,+Bulgaria/Paralia+%CE%A0%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%AF%CE%B1/Igoumenitsa,+Grecia/Corfu,+Grecia/Ohrida+%D0%9E%D1%85%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B4/Ni%C5%9F+%D0%9D%D0%B8%D1%88/Zaicear+%D0%97%D0%B0%D1%98%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%80/Bucharest/@42.138952,21.8144135,7z/data=!4m81!4m80!1m5!1m1!1s0x40b1f93abf3cad4f:0xac0632e37c9ca628!2m2!1d26.1025384!2d44.4267674!1m15!1m1!1s0x14abaeb946493c25:0xd6b0eaa049fe85c7!2m2!1d23.485653!2d41.8404241!3m4!1m2!1d23.7371952!2d41.6415532!3s0x14abbe758a6ee401:0x263cb8b025044b8d!3m4!1m2!1d23.0138501!2d41.259436!3s0x14a992bc156b8e39:0xb406eb9c38ed08d1!1m10!1m1!1s0x135800332443d671:0x400bd2ce2b9ab40!2m2!1d22.5964132!2d40.268008!3m4!1m2!1d22.251499!2d40.1694601!3s0x135817eb1e58c5f3:0x387e6dcb4672af3f!1m5!1m1!1s0x135b7e5b559cf363:0x621a7ebb7b4f5f13!2m2!1d20.2655339!2d39.5061499!1m15!1m1!1s0x135b5c00bfd150d7:0x400bd2ce2b99410!2m2!1d19.9223461!2d39.6249838!3m4!1m2!1d20.8104227!2d40.1635127!3s0x135a30aaf6f4b6f7:0x874d05023b1072fd!3m4!1m2!1d20.9471605!2d40.6624576!3s0x1350a8e0c3de1d1b:0xa46c4be4bbac404d!1m5!1m1!1s0x1350db6587ea6657:0xc46cfc65390bc9d3!2m2!1d20.8016481!2d41.1230977!1m5!1m1!1s0x4755b0c240c81f65:0x56319fe3122ac3cd!2m2!1d21.8957589!2d43.3209022!1m5!1m1!1s0x475474850e3afebf:0x8443a917506c39d!2m2!1d22.2738011!2d43.9015048!1m5!1m1!1s0x40b1f93abf3cad4f:0xac0632e37c9ca628!2m2!1d26.1025384!2d44.4267674!3e0

 

In momentul in care se incarca linkul google din pacate cam reface traseul si ce am tras eu se pierde, motiv pentru care uite si o poza :

 

 

Programul aproximativ ar fi urmatorul :

Ziua 1 : Bucuresti - Bansko

Ziua 2 : Bansko - Paralia (sau pe langa dar tot la plaja). Evitat pe cat posibil autostrada, mers prin munti.

Ziua 3 : Paralia - Corfu. Mers pe langa muntele Olimp, evitat pe cat opsibil autostrada, dar nu prea ai varianta pt ultimii 150 km.

Ziua 4 : Corfu

Ziua 5 : Corfu

Ziua 6 : Corfu - Ohrida. Aici chiar as vrea sugestii pentru cel mai bun traseu, nu am chef sa merg pe autostrada.

Ziua 7 : plimbat prin jurul lacului

Ziua 8 : Ohrida - Nis (eventual Zaicear)

Ziua 9 : Nis/Zaicear - Bucuresti

 

In total ar fi undeva in jur de 2500 km plus ce se mai aduna prin Corfu si pe langa lacul Ohrid. In principiu am ales opririle astfel incat sa nu stau in sa mai mult de 6-7 ore, tura e de relaxare si voi fi cu pasagera. Cu exceptia primei si ultimei zile se va merge mai lejer, la admirat peisajul. Cazarea va fi hotel, preferabil 3-4 stele.

 

Ma intereseaza :

• Puncte de interes, chestii de vizitat, trasee de facut care nu m-ar ocoli prea mult.
• La ce ar trebui sa fiu atent pe parcurs, siguranta, calitatea drumului, etc.
• Colegi care sa ma insoteasca evident

[ovi_ice]

Man, am luat traseul tau, am bifat "avoid highways" si l-am mai "tras" putin spre coasta Albaniei sa o ia pe SH8. Si s-a schimbat radical (zic eu, in bine): https://goo.gl/maps/dcG1P6o3ZkG2

 

Prin zona aia (Albania) cica ar mai fi drumuri frumoase, depinde acu cat de mult off-road vrei sa faci. Mai multe info aici: http://www.dangerousroads.org/eastern-europe/albania.html

Editat Mai 8, 2018 de ovi_ice

[omu79]

Pt. prima zi, eu as trece pasul Troian, apoi prin Velingrad catre Bansko. Am facut de 1 Mai zona si merita pe deplin. Asfat excelent, pisaje pe masura. Eventual poti sa te abati si prin Koprivştiţa, care e un fel de Arbanasi. La intoarcere iti recomand sa intri in Macedonia pe drumul apropiat de la cul Prespa, apoi treci catre Ohrid pe drumul dintre cele 2 lacuri. De la Ohrid mergi catre Skopje prin Struga-Debar-Novo Selo.

 

PS. Daca apucam sa bem o bere pana atunci, iti mai povestesc, ca am facut destule drumuri in zona asta.

Editat Mai 8, 2018 de omu79

[RuInCV]

Cu pasager si bagaje nu prea am gand sa ies off, decat potiuni de genul de pe TF la Cumpana cand am fost la MAN. Singura bucata de off care mi se pare suficient de lejera si suficient de spectaculoasa este cea care pleaca din Orchida, trece prin parcul national si intra in P504, drumul care face legatura intre cele 2 lacuri. Daca sotia nu va fi cu mine atunci din P504 se mai desprind cateva bucati de off care par interesante si cred ca sunt abordabile solo atata timp cat e uscat. Pneurile sunt Tourance Next, au deja 10.000 km, nu sunt varianta optima pentru off.

» Post actualizat in 08 May 2018 11:19

Pt. prima zi, eu as trece pasul Troian, apoi prin Velingrad catre Bansko. Am facut de 1 Mai zona si merita pe deplin. Asfat excelent, pisaje pe masura. Eventual poti sa te abati si prin Koprivştiţa, care e un fel de Arbanasi. La intoarcere iti recomand sa intri in Macedonia pe drumul apropiat de la cul Prespa, apoi treci catre Ohrid pe drumul dintre cele 2 lacuri. De la Ohrid mergi catre Skopje prin Struga-Debar-Novo Selo.

 

PS. Daca apucam sa bem o bere pana atunci, iti mai povestesc, ca am facut destule drumuri in zona asta.

 

Deci tu practic imi recomanzi ceva de genul :

 

[omu79]

08 May 2018 11:19

 

Deci tu practic imi recomanzi ceva de genul :

 

Ziua6.PNG

 

Exact. Doar ca bucata de la intrarea in Albania si pana la Corcea nu am facut-o. Era in plan, dar din motive obiective a trebuit sa scimbam traseul pe moment. Stiu insa ca nu arata prea grozav in pozele de pe google maps, dar poate s-a mai schimbat ceva intre timp. Oricum, eu clar pe ala m-as duce in locul tau.

Editat Mai 8, 2018 de omu79

[RuInCV]

SH75 ala arata bestial. Acum m-am uitat cu Street View si este o incantare. Se bifeaza

[razzvan]

SH75 chiar este bestial, am fost pe el anul trecut cam pe vremea asta. Din pacate, vreo 30-40 km in zona Erseke este rupt destul de rau, incercau sa astupe gropile cu ... pamant batatorit cu lopata. In plus, atentie la coborarea de dupa Leskovik spre granita cu Grecia, soseaua impecabila, refacuta de curand, insa mult pietris si balegi in acele de par pe serpentine!

[RuInCV]

Ma rog pentru mine o sa fie in urcare, dar am retinut. Chiar vroiam sa intreb de bucata aia de drum (SH65 de la granita cu Grecia si pana la Leskovik), pe maps inca apare neasfaltata, dar se lucra la ea in 2016 cand a trecut masina google pe acolo.

 

Mi-am luat mobra de enduro-touring tocmai ca sa pot trece si pe drumuri mai nasoale. Google zice de o medie de 40kph de la Leskovik la Corcea pe SH75, deci overall dumul nu e catastrofal. In plus la ce peisaje am vazut pe acolo chiar ar fi pacat sa treci in viteza si sa nu-ti clatesti deloc ochii.

[razzvan]

Catastrofal nu e, are insa niste portiuni cu gropi si denivelari/alunecari de teren. De fapt, cam 40 la ora cred ca am scos si eu media, plus muuulte opriri pentru poze

 

Si inca o chestie, vezi ca pe traseul asta, de la Kalpaki (Grecia) pana la Korce nu-mi aduc aminte sa fi intalnit nici o benzinarie.

[RuInCV]

Am reconfigurat un pic traseul, l-am spart pe zile, am adaugat locurile probabile de alimentare si hotelurile la care m-am decis.

 

Ziua 1 : https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/Petrom/Maslarevo+%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE/Gas+Station/Pesnopoi+%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B9/Velingrad+%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4/Lukoil/Hotel+Chichin/@43.1419994,24.4239492,8.5z/data=!4m46!4m45!1m5!1m1!1s0x40b1fddf371126fd:0x21bff4d194bbc9a0!2m2!1d26.1474828!2d44.383242!1m5!1m1!1s0x40aeb7374d35590f:0xa00a014cd0e9f30!2m2!1d25.4647887!2d43.4210058!1m5!1m1!1s0x40a97ec437089c0d:0xd6404f3fa23a229f!2m2!1d24.7149776!2d42.9013593!1m5!1m1!1s0x40a9c6d51b028041:0xa00a014cd0eda30!2m2!1d24.806983!2d42.4848179!1m5!1m1!1s0x14ab642d3610f255:0xd77fe8f712bdf124!2m2!1d23.9915523!2d42.0275439!1m5!1m1!1s0x0:0x738975bae79aff1b!2m2!1d23.4843324!2d41.8448476!1m5!1m1!1s0x14abaebd8c1e0e2d:0xfe704b7de952530a!2m2!1d23.4933749!2d41.832656!2m1!1b1!3e0 (de bifat avoid highways)

Ziua 2 : https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/Hotel+Chichin/Sadovo+%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE/41.1701352,23.5920024/40.6324693,22.7784297/40.4990991,22.5651628/40.3492259,22.5947795/40.2993199,22.5470036/ARGO/Hotel+Kymata+Paralia/@41.007398,23.3931096,8.5z/data=!4m33!4m32!1m5!1m1!1s0x14abaebd8c1e0e2d:0xfe704b7de952530a!2m2!1d23.4933749!2d41.832656!1m5!1m1!1s0x14abebb0f2a9d799:0xa00a014cd0f00f0!2m2!1d23.8213103!2d41.5053341!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x135801cbbb216de5:0x22f90c817c2defef!2m2!1d22.5683849!2d40.2708145!1m5!1m1!1s0x135800fba6fc75db:0xf0cad9be505c4f7b!2m2!1d22.597444!2d40.266289!2m1!1b1!3e0 (de bifat avoid highways, desi am fortat ultimii km de dupa Salonic pe autostrada pentru ca e absurd sa ocolesc aiurea niste zeci de km)

Ziua 3 : https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/Hotel+Kymata+Paralia+27+Mai-28+Mai/40.1436298,22.2241169/39.6561297,20.9599948/SHELL+PAPADOPOULOS+3+-+AUTOGAS/39.5949101,20.8563192/39.5361055,20.6959045/AVIN/39.4904334,20.4436547/39.4717105,20.3250022/Igoumenitsa+Ferry+Port/@39.9110851,20.8465505,9z/data=!4m34!4m33!1m5!1m1!1s0x135800fba6fc75db:0xf0cad9be505c4f7b!2m2!1d22.597444!2d40.266289!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x135be8ac1e1495b9:0x57e1423f123b2714!2m2!1d20.895824!2d39.600926!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x135b865219dca379:0x4854ac9ce9f20e38!2m2!1d20.484562!2d39.478497!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x135b7e163df5c6af:0x9a960f71b07285e6!2m2!1d20.2583502!2d39.4892668!2m1!1b1!3e0 (am fortat din nou un pic de autostrada pe langa Ioanina si la final, dar aici criteriul cel mai important va fi daca ne incadram in timp sa ajungem la ferry)

Ziua 6 : https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/Igoumenitsa+Ferry+Port/Shell/40.1520487,20.6114067/40.9433081,20.9039308/40.9556056,20.8227794/Villa+Boban,+Dejan+Vojvoda+222-A,+Ohrid,+Macedonia+(FYROM+-+Fosta+Republic%C4%83+Iugoslav%C4%83+a+Macedoniei)/@40.1632886,20.5230813,8.77z/data=!4m25!4m24!1m5!1m1!1s0x135b7e163df5c6af:0x9a960f71b07285e6!2m2!1d20.2583502!2d39.4892668!1m5!1m1!1s0x135bb0ab54fc6943:0x3b1792e8a88c31d6!2m2!1d20.6167367!2d39.8897855!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x1350dc99a0adaa37:0xf3746aa7055c402e!2m2!1d20.7986186!2d41.1221299!2m1!1b1!3e0 (probabil va fi cea mai spectaculoasa zi)

Ziua 8 : https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/Villa+Boban+31+Mai-2+Iun./Lukoil/41.1529186,20.7533999/41.5064057,20.5078724/Novo+Selo+%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE+%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE/Benzinska+Stanica+MOL/Surdulica+%D0%A1%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0/42.7730753,22.3154593/43.1697302,22.3094773/Hotel+ZEN,+Gornjomatejeva%C4%8Dka+116,+Ni%C5%A1+18000,+Serbia/@42.5433134,21.6555238,8.02z/data=!4m42!4m41!1m5!1m1!1s0x1350dc99a0adaa37:0xf3746aa7055c402e!2m2!1d20.7986186!2d41.1221299!1m5!1m1!1s0x1350dc947f1a5c43:0x77ae4c95f01f15d8!2m2!1d20.7871125!2d41.1258587!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x13515b6cef8025b3:0xeb15744b67f45939!2m2!1d20.8295873!2d41.7338759!1m5!1m1!1s0x13545719f1d8a957:0x13b061a8d08c00dc!2m2!1d21.7026078!2d42.2448759!1m5!1m1!1s0x135536e167697765:0xbb9f4d285db6830!2m2!1d22.1720303!2d42.6907233!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x4755b127156dd26f:0x989e0a49936c2117!2m2!1d21.9235118!2d43.3391649!3e0

Ziua 9 : https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/Hotel+ZEN/ABS/Lukoil/Petrom/@43.8963216,23.1163546,8.25z/data=!4m26!4m25!1m5!1m1!1s0x4755b127156dd26f:0x989e0a49936c2117!2m2!1d21.9235118!2d43.3391649!1m5!1m1!1s0x4755ad33ed853783:0x3a9ead2395559815!2m2!1d22.1099424!2d43.4097007!1m5!1m1!1s0x40ad39d6aa6c32b9:0x925fd282dcb4b9f4!2m2!1d24.351175!2d44.4244825!1m5!1m1!1s0x40b1fddf371126fd:0x21bff4d194bbc9a0!2m2!1d26.1474828!2d44.383242!3e0

 

 

[ovi_ice]

Ziua 6 are vreo 2000 km....iar pt ziua 8 imi zice ca nu gaseste Vila Boban, deci nu imi traseaza nici o ruta.

[RuInCV]

Enervant ca nu poti edita mesajele decat foarte putin timp dupa ce ai postat.

 

Ziua 6 : https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/Igoumenitsa+Ferry+Port/Shell/40.1520487,20.6114067/40.9433081,20.9039308/40.9556056,20.8227794/Villa+Boban,+Dejan+Vojvoda+222-A,+Ohrid,/@40.2201533,20.9554998,8.75z/data=!4m25!4m24!1m5!1m1!1s0x135b7e163df5c6af:0x9a960f71b07285e6!2m2!1d20.2583502!2d39.4892668!1m5!1m1!1s0x135bb0ab54fc6943:0x3b1792e8a88c31d6!2m2!1d20.6167367!2d39.8897855!1m0!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x1350dc99a0adaa37:0xf3746aa7055c402e!2m2!1d20.7986186!2d41.1221299!2m1!1b1!3e0

 

Ziua 8 : https://www.google.ro/maps/dir/Villa+Boban/Lukoil/41.1529186,20.7533999/41.5064057,20.5078724/Novo+Selo+%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE+%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE/Benzinska+Stanica+MOL/Surdulica+%D0%A1%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0/42.7730753,22.3154593/43.1697302,22.3094773/Hotel+ZEN,+Gornjomatejeva%C4%8Dka+116,+Ni%C5%A1+18000,+Serbia/@41.1535537,20.7093881,12.04z/data=!4m47!4m46!1m5!1m1!1s0x0:0xf3746aa7055c402e!2m2!1d20.7986186!2d41.1221299!1m5!1m1!1s0x1350dc947f1a5c43:0x77ae4c95f01f15d8!2m2!1d20.7871125!2d41.1258587!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d20.7469151!2d41.1607336!3s0x1350ddba7fe0fb21:0x199a7a7680e884c6!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x13515b6cef8025b3:0xeb15744b67f45939!2m2!1d20.8295873!2d41.7338759!1m5!1m1!1s0x13545719f1d8a957:0x13b061a8d08c00dc!2m2!1d21.7026078!2d42.2448759!1m5!1m1!1s0x135536e167697765:0xbb9f4d285db6830!2m2!1d22.1720303!2d42.6907233!1m0!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x4755b127156dd26f:0x989e0a49936c2117!2m2!1d21.9235118!2d43.3391649!3e0

 

Sper ca sunt ok acum, cel putin din ce am testat eu merg.

[bmwio]

Daca mergi in Albania si ratezi Vlore-Igumenitza pe malul marii, pierzi tot farmecul acelei tari. Apoi nu rata Ioanina-Trikala-Meteora-Larisa si cite altele.

[RuInCV]

Daca fac Igumentitsa-Vlore pierd SH75. Am in plan o alta tura cu Albania, Muntenegru si coasta dalmata si o sa prind SH18 atunci.

 

In Grecia o sa revin in iulie la o alta tura. Din ce mi-am propus sa vad acolo sunt abia la 15-20%, dar n-au intrat zilele in sac

» Post actualizat in 27 May 2018 05:32

» Post actualizat in 27 May 2018 13:25
Si o poza de la mare. Olimpul inca mai are urme de zapada.
» Post actualizat in 27 May 2018 13:29

» Post actualizat in 27 May 2018 13:29

» Post actualizat in 28 May 2018 12:12
Pe ferry

» Post actualizat in 28 May 2018 12:12
Pe ferry