SabinRace

Am o yamaha r6 2003 si am are o problema imi moare la relantii,mai exact se deregleaza il pun pe la 80-90 de grade la 1.350 de ture aproximativ iar dupa un timp cand stau la semafor vad ca sta la 1000 de ture se balbaie si moare daca pun relantiul iar la 1300 cand am probleme se deregleaza si ajunge la 1700 il dau inapoi la 1300 si tot asa asta nu tot timpul din cand in cand dar in ultimul timp tot mai des,filtru de aer K&N iar injectia a fost curatata acum 2 ani.

 

Sa imi stearga cineva postu de mai sus nu stiu de ce s-a postat de 2 ori.

Ai vopsit rezervorul? Apar astfel de probleme daca n-a fost izolat bine si a infundat alimentarea!!!

Tot astfel de probleme apar si de la supapele de alimentare (diferentze de debit) fiind infundate injectoare.

La R6-R1 daca se supraincalzeste in timp cad bobine de inductie si pierd scanteea pe quloasa.

Cel mai bine ar fi sa intri la o diagnosticare treptata in verificarea si alinierea injectiei si a sistemului electronic de management scantee.

Du-o la Doctor sa-i faca tratamentul adecvat.

P.S.Mai poate fi senzorul din capul injectiei care citeste ce se intampla cu clapetele. Si ala mai cade pe R1-R6 si da semnale asemanatoare explicatiei tale.

christian, si cea de FZ6 are piciorusele acelea si am reusit sa o scot si sa o pun inapoi fara sa le rup. Mi-a luat ceva

Daca ti-a luat ceva e c-ai fost atent si foarte bine. La Yamaha e de obicei aceeasi pompa in rezervor.

Si Hornetul e lafel de sensibil. Nici o diferentza la acest punct daca ambele sunt pe injectie sau ambele pe carburatie. Honda-Yamaha-Suzuki-Kawasaki, sunt lafel de sensibile pe linia alimentare, nici o diferentza fata restul Natiunilor constructoare.

Yamaha-Suzuki au otelul cel mai bun, urmate de Honda cea calculata si de Kawasaki cea mai Idioata...

Probleme au celelalte Natiuni fabricante si au mare nevoie de Service foarte des fatza de Japan!!!

Japan fiabil si performant la pret mic.

Eu personal din 1998 am si iubesc R1 dar de cand am MV ul am inceput sa vad ce-i aia tehnologie si necesitatea servisarii deosebit de dese. Daia la 2 ani imi schimb R1. Sa am un vehicol de zi cu zi in maxima putere si raspuns.

R1 e Talent.

Pai si cand or venii si vremuri mai bune te intorci la MV??

Fara indoiala dar cred ca vremurile alea mai bune vis a vis de MV la mine nu vor avea intrerupere... Nu sunt bani pe piata si nu isi permite lumea astfel de Bolid. Sunt 2 buc la 4500euro de 750 care mi se pare un pret extrem de mic dar incomparabile cu 1000r nici la putere nici la pret.

Eu avandu le pe ambele am simtit pe pielea mea ce-a facut MV cand a scos modelul 1000. Are putere foarte mare jos ca un Ducati si continua sa traga ca nebuna pana la nesfarsit.

La 1000r cilindrii si pistoanele sunt mahle si folosesate exact acelasi bloc motor ca si 750. Arealte rapoarte in cutie si o alta injectie. Eu am si cipul de injectie de la Ferraci care o face si mai nebuna.

Am mai spus-o dar nu ma pot opri sa o repet: cand ma dau jos de pe MV ul meu si ma urc pe R1 meu (careia inca nu i-am gasit un alt 1000 s-o bata) ma simt ca si cum R1 e de 600...

Real ma rog la Dul sa nu se vanda si sa gasesc resursele necesare in alta directie.

Italianca mea e o nebuna. Am cheltuit mult cu ea prin magazine dar nu-mi pare rau de nici un banut.

Am gasit imaginile astea pe net si mi se par folositoare. Cum sa scoti pompa de benzina din rezervor fara dureri de cap :

Bune pozele astea ptr vopsitori sau tinichigii... Multe motocilete vopsite pe la ... ... ... au ajuns sa schimbe injectoare, pompe si sa cheltuie aiurea deoarece au fost in special vopsite fara a izola rezervorul in timpul respectivei lucrari...

Dar vinovati sunt motociclistii care cred ca pot face reparatii mai ieftine la un var ce le face treaba si care real se umplu de spume si se golesc de bani...

SabinRace, de ce o vinzi? Nu e ea iubirea ta? Sau astepti sa apara in toamna SBK-ul de la Ducati?

O vand ca la monopoli... Renunt la Printesa mea de suflet ca sa imi termin de construit Servicele pe terenul meu si sa scap de chiria care ma desala.

Si servicele e tot ceva pe care am dat banii din mare dragoste ptr motoare.

Fara sacrificii nu se poate.

P.S. Nu as trece de la MV la Ducatii niciodata.

P.S.S. Da am vorbit si cu Pascota si cu Mecanicul respectiv. As putea sa dau imprumut un senzor de citire a injectiei dar pene acolo as vreifica senzorul de la cric si toate conexiunile-mufele de pe toata motocicleta. Practic ai o cadere de semnal.

Poate fi si de la cititorul de pe quloasa si axe sau cel de la aprindere. Nu e ceva grav dar tre investigat cu meticulozitate.

Pozele-s de pe R1 meu, am vrut sa vad daca se potriveste la 2008.

Interesant proiect. Ma intereseaza.

Daca nu mergi pe rosu tot timpul si o folosesti des prin orasi atunci NGK/CR9EIA-9

De unde ai intrebat se regleaza jocul manetei fata de injectie, reglajul de relanti se face pe unde a spus bajatul de mai sus probabil. Nu am niciuna in garaj acum sa ma asigur dar oricum este intre cadru si motor, in partea stanga cum stai pe ea, deasupra pinionului de atac lant.

P.S. Nu incerca alte bujii decat ce ti-am scris ca nu tin mult. Modelul 2002-2003 e un pic altfel si nu merge bine ca toate celelalte pe cr9e.

P.S.S. Fiind modelul pe injectie este posibil sa n-ai acea rotitza de reglaj relanti si sa trebuiasca sa mergi la service de profil sa demonteze rezervorul si filtrul ptr a creste turatia in parametri.

Am de vinzare un radiator aditional pt R1 2004 2006. 200euro. Vine kit complet cu racorduri, cleme. Scade temperatura motorului cu 15grd.

Da ne o poza.

am si eu o intrebare in legatura cu r1`le meu 2002

de la un timp nu mai sta la relanti ca inainte(1100-1200)

dupa ce cade socu sta undeva la 900-1000 si se aude foarte urat

filtru e curatat, benzina are

ce ar putea fi ?:|

 

la inceput m`am uracat cu frica pe ea, acum o iubesc

si ma doare cand o aud la relanti :|

astept si eu niste raspunsuri daca se poate de la "ăi" mai vechi cu experienta

 

bafta

Cand motorul are peste 80 de grade atunci reglezi relantiul la 1250rpm. Nu stiu cand ai facut ultimul reglaj injectie si schimb bujii dar asta se face la fiecare 9000km.

Atentie! Sunt 99% din casele moto care folosesc sisteme de vacum de 45euro care mai rau iti zapacesc motorul. Ca sa le deosebesti sunt montate pe o tabla rosie si daca faci vacum pe toate vei vedea ca bat aiurea.

Vin-o la noi si iti garantam lucrarea 9000km daca rezervorul tau nu are rugina.

Pret 90euro injectie-bujii totul inclus garantat 9000km.

Sau schimba bujiile si apoi la 80 grade da relantiul in 1250rpm.

Bafta.

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Uite motocicletele cu care ne dam noi real. Sunt preparate dar sunt exact modelelenoastre...

http://www.fim-tv.com/page/RoadRacing/0,,1...ml#in-p1-c17389

f-tui criza ma-sii

Sincer Da!

Asta este pretul de criza al acestei moto si tot sincer iti spun ca daca imi ies banutii din altele atunci voi fi si mai fericit.

Aia e... O dau si merg cu (scuteru) R1...

P.S. E o poveste lunga de ce imi vand eu Agusta dar daca apare Printisorul pentru ea atunci Servicele meu poate fi mutat pe plantatia mea. Aia e. Fara sacrificii nu se face nimic pe lumea mea.

Am tras la liniutza cu cbr repsol si cbr HRC ambele din 2008 vs R1 meu 2007.

Le-am rupt carena de fatza la ambele. Daca e vreun CBR de 1000 sau 5000 care vrea sa imi demonstreze ca e mai tare atunci astept un telefon si vin imediat.

A mea are tobe de world sbk si atat fatza de serie. Nu filtre nu homosecsualitati de Power Commander etc. Serie pe motor.

dela 250km/h CBR uldevine istorie si de la a 3 a in sus lafel...

Repet! Respect CBR ul ca si motocicleta dar sa nu incerce sa sara Calul(YZF R1)...

N-am facut poze cu R1 meu dar va fac azi si vi le postez. Pana atunci admirati mi MV ul:

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Pe Circuit nu am probat clasa 1000 de la honda dar am probat in 2004-2005 toata clasa 600cc. Yamaha 2004 m-a incantat enorm si mi-a dat cel mai bun timp.

Nu credeam ca ajungem sa discutam cat de bine si frumos sta motoreta pe cric dar daca yamaha nu sta bine e doar pentru ca a fost asezata gresit...

Am chiar si astazi HRC ul de la 1000rr 2008 la garaj si ies cu toate moto client in probe prin Bucuresti, mi-am facut eu un circuit in jurul Servicelui de 3 km. E foarte tare CBR ul dar imi place mai mult R1.

Pilotul-Proprietarul poate ajusta diferentele ce-l dor la o moto. Poti schimba rapoarte lant ptr mai multa fortza dar si asa mi se pare ca R1 e perfect de serie.

O sa va dau o poza ce R1 meu ca sa vedeti cat de mult o iubesc si cati bani si tehnologie am pe ea.

Ptr mine Personal R1 e cea mai sexoasa si senzuala capra.

Mai capritzelor...

Degeaba are R1 coarne mai lungi si CBR ul fortza mai mare in gat ca nu asta conteaza!

Depinde de pilot, pe ce se simte el mai bine cu aia va sta pe pozitie de varf.

Eu sincer recomand Yamaha celor cu siluete ce nu depasesc 80kg iar Honda celor ce au nevoie de cuplu.

Yamaha ia curbe la viteze foarte mari si trece prin sicane ca naluca pe langa Honda care iese tare dupa curba si ia curbe de viteza mica mult mai bine.

Pascota si Rossi nu se simt bine decat pe Yamaha. Cu asta au avut cele mai bune rezultate si cea mai buna pozitie longeviva. Acum ca unu merge pe BMW si altul pe Ducati s-au dus la mijlocul clasamentului.

Dupa Honda cand te urci pe Yamaha eu zic ca scoti timpi mai buni, intri mai bine in viraj si stai mai bine acolo, ai 1000rpm in plus pe linie dreapta la fiecare treapta si se aseaza mai bine pe asfalt la viteze foarte mari.

Vorbind de moto de serie (nu GP) eu recomand celor la inceput Honda ca dupa ce trec pe Yamaha sa de cronometrul peste cap.

Yamaha mea are peste 2 octave fata de Honda dar isi are si ea nasul ei ca oricare...

De curand am facut un mega efort de a-mi achizitiona o MV AGUSTA F4 si as dori sa gasesc si alti impatimiti ai marci care sa imi poata da anumite feedback-uri

Pai mai bine spune ne tu cum te simti in seaua bolidului. Ce F4 ai? Ce an si se indicativ? f4 750 s...

Spune ne ce nu-ti place la ea si ce-ti lipseste.

Noi avem de mult timp si te putem ajuta s-o croiesti dupa mana ta.

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P.S. Am raspuns dupa un calc ce nu-l cunosc si mi-a dat niscai erori...

Cand ne intalnim MV isti din Bucuresti?

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http://www.bikeshop.ro/handler.php?tip=am&...amp;zoom=1#foto

Salut. Intreb pt un prieten.

 

Descriu situatia din ce mi-a povestit si din ce am vazut si eu.

 

 

Yamaha R1 din 2002. ~ 23ooo km

Baterie noua - pe timpul iernii bateria a stat in casa - am verificat si cu multimetru - 12.70v.

La ralanti/putin turata cand verificasem ultima oara arata peste 14.xx v

Ulei nou Motul sintetic 7100 10w40 schimbat in vara

A stat nepornita pe perioada iernii.

Benzina 98 dar nush de la ce firma.

Sta in garaj.

 

De pornit, porneste la 2 doua incercare daca sta mai mult de 3-4 zile.

La ralanti la rece (cand scrie "LOW" are putin peste 1000 rpm -1100-1200 din ce aproximez eu)

Apoi cand scrie 40-60 grade celsius , scade turatia putin sub 1000 si fluctueaza putin.

 

Insa din ce mi-a povestit, ii moare motorul cateodata chiar dupa ce parcurge 20-30 de m. Cam de 1-2 ori se opreste pana se incalzeste.

Asta numai la rece. Dupa ce se incalzeste cica nu mai face.A doua zi nu sunt probleme.Porneste instant si nu se opreste.

Singurele constante doar cand e rece si a stat ceva nepornita.

 

Ce ar putea fi?

 

Faza cu ralanti, sunt ok valorile ?

 

Multumesc.

Nu e ok. Esti sub turatia normala. Du motorul in 70-100grade si apoi urca-i turatia la 1250rpm, acolo este relantiul motocicletei tale si ai sa vezi ca totul va fi ok.

Daca esti din Bucuresti sau poti veni cu ea la noi, este free sa iti ascultam motorul si sa ti spunem daca ai alte probleme.

Ar mai putea fi necesare schimb de bujii (normal la max 9000km) si reglaj de Injectie dar pana ajungi s-o auzim fa ce ti-am spus si nu ar mai trebui sa se poreasca.

Fericit alaturi de R1.

Ietete ce CBReala s-a adunat pe la noi:))) Buna si berea intre preteni...

Ce-am vrut sa spun:

Toti se asteptau ca Yamaha dupa ce pleaca Rossalindo sa se duca la gara, cand Rossi a venit la Yamaha, cand Biagi a venit la Yamaha si multi altii au fost direct pe podium.

Eu sincer credeam ca Rossi si Ducati se vor duce mult departe de restul direct de la start, Honda se stie de 50 ani ca tine pasul si sta pe podium oricum la orice cursa dar Yamaha nu are un grafic constant...

Yamaha a tinut pas cu tehnologia si a intrat in sezonul 2011 cu un avantaj fata de Ducati, nu ma intereseaza ce face Honda ci ma intereseaza sa bata Yamaha pe Ducati.

P.S. Daca eu personal nu ma simt bine cu Honda asta nu inseamna ca nu ii port respect si ca am vreun dubiu vis a vis de performantele ei.

Adica din toate k cota de pariuri ar fi:

1 honda

2 yamaha

3 ducati

4 suzuki

5 kawa

iar pe strada la 1000cc ce-am tras la linie cu minore preparari:

1 MV Agusta

2 Yamaha

3 suzuki

4 honda

Deci si pe strada Honda tine pasul cu Yamaha pana la 90% insa yamaha rezista fiabil fata de honda pana la 80%.

Si uite asa Honda detine suprematia mondiala atat la moto vandute cat si la fiabilitate. Honda refuza sa se strice.

Cu toate astea eu prefer R1.

P.S.S. Am si eu o masina de joaca Honda CRX si o Supermoto Honda CRF450R. Yamaha am 2 clape si un diapazon:)))

Yamaha sta in varful clasamentului chiar si fara Rossi insa Rossi nu sta fara Yamaha...

No 1 Bel Ray

No 2 Motul

Experientza mea cu castrol e foarte naspa. Chiar pe Yamaha... 3 motoare facute praf in 3 curse. E mare porcarie.

Daca n--ai bani etc atunci mergi pe Ipone sau Motorex.

Yamaha e foarte sensibila.

Atentie la schimbatul vitezei 1-2 cu ambreaj si la ulei bun max 2500km.

Daca ti cont de astea 2 ua atunci ca alt exemplu: Un prieten apropiat cu un R1 din 2004 cu nitro si multa nebunie pe rosu non stop, are in acest moment 60 000km si merge motorul ceas dar a mers doar pe motul competition la 2500km si a avut grija de ea.

Arunca mizeria aia de ulei urgent.

R1 e cel mai tare

Pai chiar e cel mai tare. Are gustul dulce amarui.

Inchide-ti telefonul!!!

Vand roti supermoto de aprilia sxv550 fara disc fata si pinion spate.pret 300euro.

Ti-ai luat Marchesini mai sau te lasi de frica mea de supermoto:))))))))))))))))))))

Am ajuns sperietoare de vrabiutze:))))))))))))))))))))))))))

in ce stare se afla motocicleta? ai mai lucrat ceva la ea ?

Datoria pregatirilor masive ptr deschiderea sezonului, nu s-a mai lucrat pe V90 dar voi relua constructia in max 2 saptamani.

Deocamdata R1 Transformer a fost scos in teste si s-a demonstrat alaturi de 6 alte 1000cc dupa 2007 a fi un mare succes tehnic. Le-a intins pe toate cu noile transformari.

Voi posta foto cu ea cand voi fi multumit de designul final.

R1 meu e cel mai TareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeePoc Poc 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Eu sincer as vrea sa pot spune prin cuvinte ceea ce simt dar nu se poate. Nu poti regla suspensii fara se te urci pe motor si sa simti cum merg suspensiile sau macar sa vezi pe altul cum merge si cum se comporta motocicleta. Personal am inteles ca ar vrea o situatie de mijloc intre Enduro si Supermoto ceea ce duce direct la un seting al suspensiei de Motocross. I-am dat persoanele care pot face asta sau poftim cartea... Seteaza suspensia in sistem motocross.

In alta ordine de idei am vazut piloti la Enduro Cross care mergeau cu furca pe fata aproape sudata si totusi castigau. Astia sunt ori foarte talentati si norocosi ori extraterestri... Nemtii mergeau fara suspensie spate cu tot cu atasi dar asta revenind la subiect nu inseamna nimic. Apsolut nimic. Scoate sutica si nu-ti bate capul.