KINGS

deci stii gresit!eu stiu ca in RO se masoara la 5 m.in film se zice 3,8 m.oricum ai lua nu e 8 m.si inaltimea e pana in centrul farului.

Uite ptr. edificare:e de pe Motorcyclistonline So how are you supposed to aim the beam? A lot of riders simply adjust until the light startles oncoming drivers--and then back off a half turn. Believe it or not, there are official recommendations. Find a flat patch of ground with a white or light-colored wall at one end. (You may have one of these right there at home--it's called a driveway.) Place the bike 25 feet from the wall or garage door (4). Measure from the center of the headlight to the ground with the bike level (5). Now go over to the garage door and mark one line at the same height above ground, and another two inches lower (6). Use a carpenter's level to draw a horizontal reference line (7).

Cam tarziu dupa 3,5 ani dar :

25 feet = 7,62 m deci distanta de aprox. 8m e corecta.

2 inches = cam 5cm.

 

De acord, am dat eu 690-ul ca si exemplu, pt. ca era vorba de KG (tot ati laudat Vstomul ca are 220 mkg).Vstromul la categoria asta,e de laudat pt.confort cu 2 persoane, nu pt. KG.

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Vis a vis de KG eu nu am facut altceva decat sa intru intr-o polemica nefericita cu ERU pe tema 1200 GS / GSA versus V Strom 650.

Ar trebui crezut in aceeasi masura in care trebuie crezut oricare isi da cu parerea aici.

Pana la urma urmei toti avem un grad de subiectivism.........

Cert e un lucru : a compara un touring cu cateva modeste valente off (V Strom) cu un touring enduro cu putine valente pentru touringul adevarat (KTM 690) este un non sens.

Parerea mea bineinteles.

 

la fel de bine pot sa citeasca si sa creada ca se poate merge prin sahara cu ea

 

nu-l cunosc, nu stiu ce-a facut si pe unde merge asa ca dupa ce vad ca amesteca preturi de showroom cu preturi sh nici nu-l iau in seama

Si totui, textul de la sfarsit

e definitoriu :

But if you want value and fun ... and no Cache' ... Get a nice used DL650 V-Strom and never look back. Probably cost you around $5000 to $7000 USD. The Wee Strom is a 100,000 mile machine that will do ALL you ask of it without a lot of expensive additions ... and it will never break down ... or get stolen! (must be a reason why Motoradd magazine awarded the V-strom the Alpenfurher prize twice)

Are you considering ONLY KTM? What other bikes have you ridden? For the use you've described, it leans more towards a bigger, roomier bike, pillion capable, and still able to commute and go off road.

Get the 990 if you can spend over $15,000 ... then add another $2000 in extras and add ons ... which the bike needs. The 990 is big, tall and heavy. I'd do a test ride, with your wife ... see how it goes. Former experienced dirt bike riders love the 990. Re-Entry riders? I'm not so sure.

The 690 does not seem to fit with what you want. It's also a bit unreliable ... read the ride reports and threads here to learn about myriad problems afflicting these machines. Great to ride ... Hell to own and maintain.

If status and Brand are important for you ... then by all means go with something Euro. BMW, KTM, Ducati ... all make bikes that could suit you. But if you want something practical, cheap and easy to maintain: Think Japanese.

If you have $13K plus, the Triumph Tiger 800XC is an excellent bike by all current reports.

But if you want value and fun ... and no Cache' ... Get a nice used DL650 V-Strom and never look back. Probably cost you around $5000 to $7000 USD. The Wee Strom is a 100,000 mile machine that will do ALL you ask of it without a lot of expensive additions ... and it will never break down ... or get stolen! (must be a reason why Motoradd magazine awarded the V-strom the Alpenfurher prize twice)

Are you considering ONLY KTM? What other bikes have you ridden? For the use you've described, it leans more towards a bigger, roomier bike, pillion capable, and still able to commute and go off road.

Get the 990 if you can spend over $15,000 ... then add another $2000 in extras and add ons ... which the bike needs. The 990 is big, tall and heavy. I'd do a test ride, with your wife ... see how it goes. Former experienced dirt bike riders love the 990. Re-Entry riders? I'm not so sure.

The 690 does not seem to fit with what you want. It's also a bit unreliable ... read the ride reports and threads here to learn about myriad problems afflicting these machines. Great to ride ... Hell to own and maintain.

If status and Brand are important for you ... then by all means go with something Euro. BMW, KTM, Ducati ... all make bikes that could suit you. But if you want something practical, cheap and easy to maintain: Think Japanese.

If you have $13K plus, the Triumph Tiger 800XC is an excellent bike by all current reports.

But if you want value and fun ... and no Cache' ... Get a nice used DL650 V-Strom and never look back. Probably cost you around $5000 to $7000 USD. The Wee Strom is a 100,000 mile machine that will do ALL you ask of it without a lot of expensive additions ... and it will never break down ... or get stolen! (must be a reason why Motoradd magazine awarded the V-strom the Alpenfurher prize twice)

Citat din :

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750715

Nu i-ai intrebat pe toti. De retinut adresa. O mobra adevarata, pe lant, poate merita asa dotara !

Ai dreptate. Cu 400 eur kitul si 270 eur un ungator automat profi parca poti sa nu duci dorul cardanului

1 litru benzina < 1 kg

 

Corect :

 

1l benzina = 0,720 kg - 0,755 kg

 

ps-Statiile de betoane, fabrici panificatie etc au cantare auto ... contracost , cred ca precizia la kg

Pai mai sus tocmai ti-am dat un site cu acea greutate de 189 kg.

22 kg gazul + 2,8 kg uleiul+ ulei furca + antigel + lichid frana + greutate acumulator se cam apropie de 220 kg.

Luminati un biet crestin :

http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/index.html?content=http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bike/enduro/r1200gsa/r1200gsa_data.html&prm_action=&notrack=1

1200 GS = 238 kg

1200 GSA = 256 kg

650 V Strom = 220 kg

Ca V Stromul o fi cel mai greu din clasa lui... asa o fi, nu-i nici un bai.

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_dl650%2004.htm

189 kg dry weight

Titlul e 600 - 800 si e clar.

Eu doar ii raspundeam lui ERU insa nu sunt convins ca am dreptate.

Cititi si mirati-va :

http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/index.html?content=http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bike/enduro/r1200gsa/r1200gsa_data.html&prm_action=&notrack=1

Cititi si indicatiile 1) si 2)

Deci ce inseamna 229 kg si ce inseamna 256 kg ?

Scrie la V Strom "including oil,gas,etc" pentru 220 kg sau nu ? :

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suzuki_v-strom_650_abs_2012.php

Oare diferenta nu e de 36kg ?

Initial am zis sa caut pe site-urile oficiale desi nici astea nu sunt chiar corecte, adica sunt mai mult un wish weight. Dar cum 12GS non lc nu se mai produce nu am gasit specs la BMW. Asa ca am luat si eu primul link gasit de gogu.

Si am gasit asa Suzy : 220 http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suzuki_v-strom_650_abs_2012.php

beemer : 229 : http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_r_1200_gs_2012.php

Evident ca la bemer pe site-ul in cauza se da si dry si wet iar la suzy doar wet. Dar 180 kg ....in there dreams. F650GS Dakar are 178~179 asa ca redevenim seriosi.

Daca nu va place Bikez spuneti un site care e mai capabil.

Atentie:

1200 GS are 229 kg fara NICI UN FLUID !

V Strom 650 are aprox. 220 kg cu toate fluidele ( inclusiv "gas" si asta inseamna vreo 20-22 kg !! )

Asta scrie acolo......

Singurul beneficiu ar fi ca ai sub control unghiul mort al oglinzilor laterale.

Pe parbriz in cele mai multe cazuri sau pe ghidon.

Arata pe site.

Cat timp e un articol care poate imbunatati siguranta cred ca merita un pic de atentie.

Nu pot fi decat subiectiv.

1,90m , 115kg , , votez V Strom 650 ca cel mai bun compromis la clasa soft enduro - touring 600 - 800 cmc.

Am comandat astazi o "chestie" din asta :

http://www.huntercreate.com/shop/riderscan

Va tin la curent cu rezultatul dupa receptie si montaj.

Daca va intereseaza bineinteles...........

 

Pai la voi se anunta 9-10C pe sfarsitul saptamanii viitoare, eu zic sa mai astepti cu hibernatul

Gata , m-am intors .Am lasat-o.

Daca vor fi 9°C aman hibernatul.

Apropo: joia trecuta eram cu job-ul in Atena , 12°C si ma uitam cu ciuda la mobristii greci. N-au nici o retinere...........

@Robert: azi iesi cu mobra? cum e vremea pe acolo?

Salut, ies eu astazi : Sibiu , -2°C. Scurt, prin oras, o duc la montat led-urile suplimentare Durite 0-420-51.

Vrand nebrand, maine circul din nou: o aduc acasa la hibernat.

O zi buna.

http://www.agmpartscomponents.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=683

http://www.romimoto-piese.ro/vehicle/57529

Mai mult ca sigur e si o chestie de buget in aprinsa controversa , pe langa diferenta de cilindree/lant - cardan/dotari. Probabil ca socoteala : un V Strom SH bine pus la punct ( 3500 eur - 5000 eur ) fata de un 1200 GS/GSA SH bine pus la punct ( 11.000 eur - 12.500 eur ), care genereaza aprox.7.500 eur diferenta, ii determina pe multi sa aleaga V Strom (sau altele).

Teoria se aplica si la pretul de nou.

- diferenta poate e lipsa la buget si atunci asta e ................, nu e nici o rusine.

- diferenta e prioritizata pe altceva: casa, familie ,alte hoby-uri,alte nevoi pe termen scurt, mediu si lung, etc

- diferenta se poate traduce in cateva(si nu putine !!!) ture foarte faine in care V Stromul (sau altele) iti e suficient ca sa te simti bine, implinit.

Da, cat scrie acolo + vreo 40 eur(nu mai stiu exact) transportul. Nu sustin ca am facut vreo afacere desteapta insa raportul pret / sound / posibilitate rapida sa schimb dB killerele mi-a convenit ,desi nu e un brand de top - mi-am asumat asta cu buna stiinta.

pin-lock sa fie . Desi nu sunt sigur ca voi pastra casca actuala . E un Nolan N43 Air care permite Pin-lock dar care cam vajaie.... E adevarat ca nu prea am experienta cu castile si asta e confortabila . Dar am vazut si Acerbis Active sau Caberg Konda / Trip care imi fac cu ochiul .

Poate consideri si asta :

http://www.louis.de/_1050f5ea028b23c45b3c850eb2aac633f9/index.php?partner=hurra&topic=artnr_gr&artnr_gr=204828&lang=en

Sincer, numai experiente pozitive cu ea atat dpdv al "vajaitului" cat si antifog.

@Adrian , da, e 2007, inmatriculata in oct . 2007 de catre primul proprietar . Cauciucurile au DOT din 10. 2006 , de unde trag concluzia ca sunt cele originale . Motocicleta avea 26.900 km cand am cumparat-o .

 

 

Am ridicat suportul parbrizului in pozitia superioara . N-am castigat mare lucru in atenuarea turbulenteleor ( cred ) dar nici nu am mers cu viteze mari avand in vedere conditiile . Deci chestiunea cu parbrizul ramane in studiu , deschisa .

http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.750/.f

http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.750/.f

http://www.louis.de/_50d4c0512f5d7ee1da46bbcbfbe6415270/index.php?topic=artnr&artnr=20012002

http://www.louis.de/_50d4c0512f5d7ee1da46bbcbfbe6415270/index.php?topic=artnr&artnr=20015244

NUUUUUU.REZERVORUL E PLIN CU BENZINA NU AIR BOXUL.

Eu i-am montat asta :

http://www.ebay.de/itm/AUSPUFFANLAGE-TAKKONI-BLACK-MIT-KRUMMER-EG-ABE-SUZUKI-DL-650-V-STROM-BJ-04-12-/171191547009?pt=DE_Motorradteile&hash=item27dbcfb481

Totul a fost perfect, inclusive pozitia sondei.

Pentru ON , eu am TOM TOM dar sa fiu sincer nu recomand cu inima deschisa. Pentru OFF, sunt altii cu experienta adevarata care pot recomanda deci ma abtin.