Valentino Rossi VR46

https://motobikes.ro/stiri/probleme-din-ce-in-ce-mai-serioase-pentru-marquez-nerv-afectat-la-operatie Oare sa fie adevarat? Oare sa fie sfarsitul unei cariere?

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Sa speram ca prinde si turul doi, trei etc, pana la final :)), cu startul are el probleme, adica pleaca foarte ''patinat'' din grila. Insa nu cred ca pe termen lung, in ritm de cursa are vre-o sansa in fata Mercedesurilor. Si una calda, nenea Helmut Marko, a declarat ca are doua optiuni pentru la anul, in locul lui Albon, si ca anunta luni pe cine a ales. Batalia pentru locul doi in echipa RedBull se da intre Perez si Russel.

Nu cred, daca castiga sau iesea pe podium, o lasau moarta sau le dadea ceva avertisment. A fost ciudat, cum a iesit Russel de la boxe pe locul 14, au si anuntat ca se investigheaza faza cu rotile, desii trecuse cateva ture de la incident. Si ar fi fost o prostie si mai mare sa penalizeze pilotul, asa, amenda pentru echipa, mi se pare un lucru cat se poate de corect. Sirul evenimentelor povestite chiar de Toto. (o sa fie mult de citit, va zic de pe acum) WHAT WENT WRONG WITH MERCEDES? WHY DID THEY PIT? AND WOULD'VE RUSSELL WON? Even seven-time world champions make mistakes -- and the problem with being the best team on the grid is that when mistakes happen, they tend to be huge. As was the case on Sunday evening, when a simple mix up of identical-looking tyres cost George Russell his first win in Formula One and Mercedes an easy one-two victory. "Overall for us it was a colossal f--- up," Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff said live on television after the race. "I know I'm not allowed to say that but it was." There's no point arguing with Wolff. That's exactly what it was. But while it destroyed one fairytale result by dropping Russell down the order, it manufactured another by giving Sergio Perez his first victory in 190 starts. Below is a look at how and why the main turning point of the Sakhir Grand Prix unfolded. WHAT WENT WRONG? Put simply, a radio call to bring new tyres into the pit lane was not heard by the people responsible for doing exactly that. Mercedes has a system whereby Russell's side of the garage (which is usually Lewis Hamilton's side) is known as the red crew and Valtteri Bottas' side is the blue crew. Ahead of a pit stop, it is the job of Mercedes' long-serving team manager Ron Meadows to radio the crews and tell them which set of tyres to bring into the pit lane. In this instance both cars were pitting in what is known as a double-stack pit stop -- where one car follows the other through the pits and both are serviced -- so both crews were radioed in the order "red crew standby" and "blue crew standby". But due to a problem with the radio, only the blue crew got the message and were able to react. "We haven't had enough time to get an absolute and thorough understanding of what went on, but we have found a smoking gun and that's to do with how the radio system prioritised the messages when Ron was calling out to the crews to get them ready with the tyres for the two drivers," chief trackside engineer Andrew Shovlin said on Sunday night. "There were a number of broadcasts at that time on the radio system, and the system knows to prioritise the messages from Rob because the most thing is that the tyres are there, more so than what a driver says or what someone else in the group might say. "But it looks like there was a period whereby the system was deciding to let the priority message through and we missed a key bit of the broadcast, such that half of the tyre collectors [the red crew] didn't get the message and half of them did." It should be noted that the pit stops were unplanned and were made as a reaction to the Safety Car that had been deployed following Jack Aitken's accident at the final corner. As a result, the radio messages went out at relatively late notice, almost as Russell was arriving at the entrance to the pit lane, meaning any breakdown in communication was always going to be harder to recover. In a normal double-stack situation, you would have both sets of tyres for both cars ready in the pit lane when the first car arrives, but in this instance the miscommunication meant only six tyres turned up -- all four of Bottas' and only the rear tyres from Russell's. It's not clear why the front tyre mechanics from the red side of the garage did not react in the same way as the rear tyre mechanics, but it is thought the rear tyre guys simply reacted to what they saw going on around them among the blue mechanics. Of course, had the message gone through on the radio, all four of Russell's tyres would have been ready When Russell stopped in the pit box from the lead of the race, the correct rear tyres from his own set were fitted but Bottas' front tyres were also bolted on. Mercedes' head tyre technician realised the error pretty much as it happened and radioed chief strategist James Vowles to say there was a problem, but given the speed of an F1 pit stop there was not enough time to react before Russell was heading down the pit lane with Bottas' front tyres attached. A logo is spray-painted on the tyres in either red or blue to avoid confusion and they are kept in tyre blankets with different colour writing on them, but the mechanics on each corner of the car who actually bolt the tyres on had no time to check as they tried to service two cars in record time and at very late notice. By the time Bottas pulled up in the box, Russell's front tyres had arrived in the pit lane and were briefly fitted to the Finn's car before the error was realised and they were taken off again. At that point the team could have held Bottas in the box and fetched another full set of mediums from the garage, but instead made the call to refit the hards he was on and send him back out. Given that his front left brake had caught fire in the delay, it was no surprise that there was some urgency to get him going again, but Bottas really struggled on the old set of tyres for the rest of the race and, with hindsight, it would have been better to hold him longer and wait for another set of mediums. Mercedes then had a situation whereby Russell was still leading the race but was on a mixed set of tyres. It wasn't immediately clear whether leaving him out would have resulted in a penalty, but judging by the stewards' communication later in the evening -- in which the team was fined €20,000 but Russell was not penalised -- a failure to rectify the issue would have likely led to a penalty for the driver as well. And so, Russell returned to the pits, took on a new set of unmixed medium tyres and rejoined the race in fifth place behind Bottas, Lance Stroll, Esteban Ocon and Perez. "It looked like we don't know what we are doing, but the issue all comes down to this root cause where we lost a key message at a key time," Shovlin added.. "We found this smoking gun, now we just need to go through the logs of how everything was working and once we have got a complete understanding of that and we have filled in some of the blanks that we are not certain of at the moment, we can then find a solution in time for [the next race] in Abu Dhabi." Why Did Mercedes PIT ITS DRIVERS IN THE FIRST PLACE? The original plan for both drivers was a one-stop strategy, switching from mediums to hards midway through the race. By the time of the pit stop in question happened, the planned stop had already taken place, so at the problematic stop was completely unplanned. But an F1's strategist's job is not done until the cars cross the line, and the main task after the final planned pit stop is to predict what might happen in a Safety Car comes out. Based on simulation software, teams know at least five laps in advance of a potential Safety Car appearance whether it makes sense to pit, and in this instance it was a no-brainer. Such was Mercedes' advantage at that stage of the race, if both cars completed a normal pit stop they would easily retained the lead and had fresh rubber on their cars. Opting against pitting would have given the cars behind the opportunity to take on fresh tyres, also retain position, and then attack Mercedes on fresher rubber once the field had been bunched up behind the Safety Car and racing got back underway. "It was a safety stop," Wolff explained. "We were fine on the hards and we could have stayed out but we had the gap and you do these things. You can question it but I think it was absolutely the right call." What's more, Mercedes has one of the best pit crews in the pit lane and has pulled off a late-notice double-stack pit stop on numerous occasions. "As a racing team you can't be afraid of doing a pit stop and you can't be afraid of doing a pit stop under pressure. We do 100s of these in races, under pressure, double-stacked, all sorts of things, and they go well and the ability to do them under pressure often wins you races. "So it's one where you can say it was, in a sense, a precautionary stop to make sure we had the best tyres on the car and it would have consolidated the lead of the race if we had been able to perform it well. We need to make sure in understanding it, like any other fault, that you focus on root cause and not all the other noise and chaos around it." WOULD RUSSELL HAVE WON WITHOUT THE PUNCTURE? Even though Russell dropped to fifth, he soon fought his way back up to second place once racing resumed after the Safety Car. Ultimately a puncture put an end to that charge, but even with a deflating tyre he was closing in on race leader Perez at a rate of 0.4s per lap and as he pealed into the pits for the fourth time in the race on lap 79 of 87 he was just 2.1s off the lead. Perez believes he would have held Russell off as his engineers calculated that the car behind needed a 0.8s pace advantage per lap to try a move, but with the help of DRS and fresher softer tyres, Russell almost certainly would have had a go. You could then say that Russell lost the race due to the bad luck of the puncture and everything that went before in the messy pit stop was null and void. But Mercedes confirmed Russell picked up the puncture at Turn 10, where Aitken had his accident, and the team suspects it was a result of Russell needing to drive off the racing line in the process of making up positions after the Safety Car that damaged the tyre. Put simply, had he not fallen down the order due to the messy pit stop, he would not have been on that part of the track and would not have suffered a puncture. The only positive for Russell is that, after a display like that, he's very likely to have another shot at victory from the cockpit of a Mercedes in the future.

Ce cursa nebuna, aproape ca mi-a venit mie sa plang pentru nesansa lui Russel. Incredibil cat ghinion :(, si totul a fost declansat de omul care a venit si l-a inlocuit pe el la Williams,daca nu ma insel. Bottas, un Vinales al Formulei 1.

Doctorul Costa spunea intr-un interviu, ca dupa infectia si complicatiile avute cu a doua operatie, solutia ideala era sa taie de tot acea bucata de os care nu se mai recupera, fara sa mai faca transplant de maduva. Dezavantajul, mana dreapta mai scurta cu trei centimetrii, dar nu e ca la picioare sa schiopatezi cand mergi, si ar fi avut o recuperare sigura si doar in cateva luni. Asa s-a dus si Lorenzo cu psihicul la vale, mai ales pe asfalt umed, dupa accidentul de la Assen. Clar vor ramane ceva retineri psihologice. Cred ca acestea sunt cele mai greu de batut, nu fizicul, pe ala il readuci la forma initiala cu antrenament, dar la cap, acolo e mai complicata situatia, cred eu.

In ultima perioada, Max a crescut mult in ochii mei, a devenit un pilot de exceptie, pacat ca este inca pe alocuri, repezit, dar tare mult as vrea sa-l vad intr-un Mercedes. Cred ca l-ar albii putin pe Hamilton.

O fi real? Spunea astazi in comentariu Florin Ion, ca revenirea lui Marcquez este pusa sub semnul intrebarii pentru inceputul sezonului 2021. Asa sa fie? Inseamna ca acolo nu mai este vorba de os, este probabil ceva nerv paralizat si nu poate sa mai foloseasca mana la capacitate maxima.

A vrut sa faca ca Marc la Sepang, adica antijoc, sa-l incurce pe Aio Gura, doar ca era cu cateva ture in urma si nu se lasa depasit de ceilalti, Ba chiar a si intrat periculos pe sub japonez intr-un viraj. Foarte urat, si-a aratat disperarea in cea mai urata maniera. Si Marc junior putea sa franeze mai devreme. Cine este in fata alege trasa, nu vad nimic urat la toata treaba asta.

Lautari sau piloti de Nascar? :))))

Lorenzo in China, stiu ca si-a luat zborul asemanator, doar ca la el atunci s-a lasat cu fracturi. Bine, a mai avut el si alte decolari, era campion la highside-uri.

Daca se pastra configuratia circuitului de anul trecut, poate Rossi si altii nu cadeau, prea multe viraje de dreapta, plus o ditamai linia dreapta, care clar ajuta si mai mult la racirea flancului stang a pneului fata, pana in virajul 2, primul de stanga dupa cred eu, aproximativ 30, 45 de secunde. Asta este, poate daca era soare, iarasi era alta situatia. Ce este de admirat, nu prea exista locul doi pentru Rossi atunci cand simte ca sunt sanse peentru victorie, cam cum a facut la LeMans acum cativa ani, cand tot asa, a cazut daca bine imi aduc aminte, in ultimul tur. Apropo, urmeaza LeMans si cred ca si acolo Rossi se va simti bine, mereu a fost competitiv. Pe Zarco este posibil sa-l fi pus pe jos rotile reci si frana de motor? Oricum, este clar, i-a luat locul lui Bautista. Marini momentan este alt om, nu se compara cu cel din anii trecuti, cred ca el va lua titlul.

Un lucru interesant ce a iesit la iveala dupa accidentul lui Stroll.

Rossi toata cursa a mers la 1.33.2 sau 3, pe alocuri 4 si in ultimul tur s-a dus la .8, a si recunoscut ca a facut o greseala. De aia a si pierdut asa usor podiumul. Amuzanta declaratia de dupa, cand a afirmat ca inchide academia, ca au inceput sa-l cam bata elevii :))))), plus ca a fost intrebat de moderatorul emisiunii de la sky, ce parere are de Morbi, mai ales ca el i-a dat cateva tips&tricks despre circuitul de la Missano, si mosul a declarat ca gata, de acum cu Morbi va mai vorbi doar despre fotbal :))). Sunt nebun daca eu zic ca principala sansa o are Rossi la titlul de anul acesta? In ultimii ani ne-a aratat o constanta foarte buna a rezultatelor si cred ca este singurul din lotul actual care poate sa duca la final toate cursele cu rezultate decente. Totusi, sper si la o victorie, ar fi urat titlul luat asa din greselile altora.

Sa stii ca pilotii au un program foarte strict, multe antrenamente fizice, mentale cat si alimentatia controlata la sange.

Daca motocicleta lui Zarco nu intra in parapetul ala gonflabil, si de acolo sa sara peste partea asfaltata, si venea ghiulea pe roti, sigur se lasa cu morti. De bulanul celor de la Yamaha nu mai zic, a fost intre ei fix distanta cat sa incapa o motocicleta, cea a lui Franco. Nici regizata cu cascadori la Holkywood si nu le iesea asa. Cum am citit undeva pe net, Simoncelli inca nu a vrut sa-l revada pe Rossi! Legat de incident, degeaba esti in fata si poti sa-ti alegi trasa, daca imediat cum ai trecut de ghidonul adversarului, te comporti de parca esti singur pe circuit.

Eu cred ca Marc cand va revenii, va forta atat de tare incat o sa cada din nou la minim inca o etapa pana la finalul sezonului.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/08/03/marc-marquez-undergoes-second-operation/336779?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=MarcMarquezundergoessecondoperation&utm_campaign=Traffic&fbclid=IwAR2rzebavZk7uMr4IkRIa2yQdIb9in_fufjvmsTT-dPvvPwG-jRK-fHI80g

Da, castiga dar era o probabilitate mare si la el sa explodeze guma stanga fata daca nu intra. Asa cum ai mai spus si tu, norocul tine cu cei buni si cred ca oricum ar fi fost, tot Hamilton castiga.

There was a very telling interview with Lin Jarvis that was pretty interesting and explains why the podium finish means more to Vale than just being on the podium. Yamaha are developing a bike that doesn't really work for Vale. With Jorge Lorenzo as a test rider and Fabio delivering they are heading in a direction that works great for their young riders. Vale had to fight hard with Yamaha this weekend to be allowed to make some changes to his bike that his side of the garage wanted. Lin admitted that for the last year and a half the bike has been developing in a direction that doesn't really work for Vale. Vale was allowed to make some changes for the 2nd round in Jerez which got the bike more towards his needs but not fully and he delivered a much improved performance. One that proves if he can get a bike that works for him he can still compete for top 5 regularly which at his age is phenomenal. Yamaha are reluctant to have too much difference between the bikes as it "adds complexity" for them. Hopefully off the back of this result they will allow Vale's side of the garage enough freedom so that he can deliver the kind of performances he knows he is still capable of. Din pacate nu am sursa, dar am gasit acest citat pe un grup de pe Facebook.

Din ce scrie in articol, la FIA au ajuns documente foarte detaliate despre motor, lucru care se putea face doar din interior. Se banuieste ca totul a fost orchestrat de Wolff, apeland la fosti angajati Ferrari si a facut asta pentru a se razbuna, deoarece echipa italiana nu a vrut sa-l sustina la alegerile presedintelui FIA din decembrie 2021. Mai scrie acolo ca Racing Point este Mercedesul de anul trecut pentru ca s-a facut un schimb, a primit Wolff actiuni la Aston Martin, sau la viitoarea echipa de formula 1.

Un articol foarte interesant! Edit: nu pot lasa link-ul https://www.pitstops.ro/ Gasiti mai sus pe site o parere si un articol despre Ferrari si finalul din sezonul trecut.

Mai cititi fratilor si voi stirile, sau ultimele doua pagini ale acestui topic si veti afla de ce nu s-au dat si baietii mari aici.

Vettel nu a declarat nimic despre incident pentru ca nu a avut voie. Din ce am inteles. amandorura li s-a interzis participarea la interviurile de dupa cursa tocmai pentru a fi bagati in sedinta de nenea Binotto. Si la faza cu Hamilton/Albon, cum era, cel din fata alege trasa, deci te bagi doar daca esti suficient de aproape si in apex esti paralel cu el.

Nu au fost la fata locului, doar Putinica dimineata a comentat MotoGp-ul pe Eurosport.