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incep certurile: Dorna zice ca pierde bani in Europa, constructorii zic ca e prea mult, mai ales in Kaza

 

https://www.gpone.com/en/2022/12/06/motogp/ktm-criticizes-dorna-we-want-a-maximum-of-18-gps-per-year.html

 

 

 

https://www.motorcyclesports.net/articles/ducati-considers-reducing-bikes-on-grid-four-teams-is-not-an-ideal-situation-paolo-ciabatti

 

Yamaha's flirtation with Rossi's team has occurred since the creation of Il Dottore's team, but the link with the Sepang Racing Team, now called RNF, was still active. The Italians' sporting director Paolo Ciabatti spoke about the issue to SPEEDWEEK.com, and was quoted by PaddockGP: 'They had a satellite team and they lost it. We have a contract and an obligation with the VR46 team, which runs until the end of 2024. I can't predict what will happen after that.'

 

Ciabatti explained that the current situation is not the best. In all there are four teams, including the official one, and two bikes per rider, which gives 16 bikes per year. The Italian left in the air the hypothesis of reducing these numbers in the future: 'Playing with four teams is not an ideal situation in the medium or long term'.

Tot ce vrea Dorna sunt $$$ sau nah €€€. S-au dus vremurile boeme de moto racing

 

https://www.visordown.com/news/racing/general/dorna-sues-kymiring-€6m-after-motogp-round-fiasco

nume interesante la cursa de 100km

 

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1017871/1/petrucci-joins-rossi-s-100km-dei-campioni-ranch-race

 

Valentino Rossi

Pedro Acosta

Niccolo Antonelli

Albert Arenas

Xavier Artigas

Francesco Bagnaia

Lorenzo Baldassarri

Axel Bassani

Marco Belli

Marco Bezzecchi

Ferran Cardus

Raffaele De Rosa

Fabio Di Giannantonio

Andrea Dovizioso

Filippo Farioli

Augusto Fernandez

Matteo Ferrari

Federico Fuligni

Filippo Fuligni

Lorenzo Gabellini

Paulin Gaultier

Manuel Gonzalez

Alessandro Gramigni

Sammy Halbert

Stefano Manzi

Luca Marini

Jorge Martin

Andrea Migno

Franco Morbidelli

Mattia Pasini

Matteo Patacca

Danilo Petrucci

Tito Rabat

Michael Rinaldi

Alex Rins

Alex Salvini

Alberto Surra

Celestino Vietti

Alessandro Zaccone

 

sunt ciudate de mici numerele din Qatar si Japonia

 

Losail, Qatar V 5,627 S 5,690 D 6,655 Total 17,972

Motegi, Japan V 8,648 S 16,682 D 32,152 Total 57,482

 

in rest la Silverstone puteau fi mai multi, dar acolo a fost parca prea aproape de F1 si parca ei au campionat local mai atractiv decat Mgp

 

Silverstone, Great Britain V 26,501 S 32,897 D 41,002 Total 100,400

 

Oare la anul o sa fie mult mai multi in Italia acum ca au campioni mondiali si la Piloti si la constructor?

cati spectatori au fost anul asta pe circuite si diferentele fata de anii trecuti:

 

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/1017328/1/motogp-spectators-germany-top-mugello-drop-24-million-total

 

exagerezi, au cate un singur finish sub locul 10 ambii. Da, MM e mai constant, dar asta vine si cu varsta si experienta. 

 

https://www.motorcyclesports.net/articles/herve-poncharal-sounds-the-alarm-about-motogp-calendar-and-format-we-are-reaching-the-limit

eu am zis ca motocicleta era performanta, doar ca pilotii nu au scos tot ce se putea din ea. avea power si statea foarte bine pe viraj. 

pana si ei au zis ca au fost afectati de anuntul de retragere si poate de acolo rezultatele mai slabe.

Suzuki-urile mergeau bine si aratau foarte frumos 

pacat ca s-au retras

Acum 17 ore, therocketscientist1 a spus:

Pentru ca toti suntem fani SRT/RNF de mici va recomand aceasta mini serie:

 

foarte interesante unele discutii. pacat ca aceste mini serii se pierd printre multele video-uri de pe pagina MotoGP. 

MM cauta scuze sau pune presiune?

 

Marc Marquez left bemoaning Honda at Valencia MotoGP test: “We need more to fight for championship”

 

Marc Marquez could not hide his disappointment after testing his 2023 Honda at the Valencia MotoGP test and warned: “I expected more but it isn’t there”.

The Spaniard missed much of 2022 as he rehabilitated from a fourth major arm surgery yet was still Honda’s highest-placed rider in the MotoGP standings, finishing 13th, after a horror year for the team.

Marquez tested Repsol Honda’s prototype bike for next season on Tuesday but was left frustrated with its lack of improvement, and insisted that unless major steps were taken he would not be able to challenge for a seventh MotoGP championship.

“We tried a proto-bike with new aerodynamics and the same engine with a small modification, a different chassis. That’s it,” he explained.

“There is not a big difference. A bit. But we lose it in a different area, it’s a compromise.

“In the end, the performance was very similar.

“Of course I expected more but it isn’t there. The important thing is that Honda is working.

“I expect a big step in February at the next test.

“I expected more because always you want more and more. I cannot say that I’m disappointed because Honda are working, they are trying.

“But we need more if we want to fight for the championship. Or we will not fight for the championship.

“We improve one area, we lose in another one. More or less the same problems. 

"We have to work this winter if we want to fight for the title. You don't have to take one step, you have to take two."

Marquez said about his new teammates’ verdicts on the Honda spec: “I saw their comments that they were surprised in the beginning! Step by step they are getting better. We know, with this bike, to get race pace is difficult.

“They are part of Honda. It was important for me to get their first impressions. When you ride a bike, you get used to the problem. If you are talented, you adapt to the problems and you are fast.”

A disappointed Marquez concluded: “I didn’t make many laps today, only for what I needed to try. That’s it. There was no sense to use the soft tyre or make a time attack. I gave my comments. It is time for them to work in the winter-time.

“I am happy because there is a little bit more torque. But only a little. We need a big step if we want to be, not on the same level, but closer to other manufacturers.”

 

eu zic ca o sa tot vedem astfel de "intamplari" de acum incolo. o sa fie mai multe curse cu mai multe puncte in joc. cine o sa stie sa stea constant sus poate lua campionatul. cine o sa castige curse, dar o sa aibe si multe DNFuri s-ar putea sa iasa mai jos de locul 2 la final.

Acum 8 ore, frigider a spus:

În FP1 un coleg îl dădea campion pe Q, Peco începe greu.
 

În fp2 când băieții au dat cu praf de coxXx Q era pe 8 parca

Nu are nicio șansă de a câștiga Q, prea multe ducati rapide.

Quilty, totusi in FP4 in simularile de cursa nu au fost asa coxxx Ducati-urile.

 

https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1016390/1/valencia-motogp-ricardo-tormo-free-practice-4-results

 

Mi se pare prea stresat FB. Prea mare presiunea in garajul lui sa nu greseasca. 

FQ arata acum cum trebuia sa arate in toata a doua jumatate a sezonului. Relax, scoate max din moto si ce o fi o fi.

FP1 results: FQ campion :)))), noroc ca mai urmeaza si alte sesiuni ca faceau cu hertz-ul sefii Ducatti

1 Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1'31.399s 14/23 324k

17 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Lenovo (GP22) +0.600s 19/19 329k

MotoGP, o afacere Italo-Spaniola

 

https://www.gpone.com/en/2022/11/03/motogp/2023-entry-lists-motogp-only-speaks-spanish-and-italian.html

pai asta am zis si eu. avea o limita nebuna mult peste ceilalti care a mers o lunga perioada de timp. cand a trebuit sa treaca de ea a facut buba.

de acum putem da vina pe orice: ba ca Honda nu (mai) e ce trebuie, ba ca MM a fost accidentat si nu mai e la potentialul maxim, ba ca nu se aliniaza stelele...

Oricum o sa fie acolo in fata, iar daca cei din noua generatie nu stiu sa ramana constanti s-ar putea sa mai ia si un campionat. 

asta e ca oul si gaina. daca nu apareau tinerii astia super sportivi/talentati, MM nu trebuia sa forteze peste limita (nebuna) care o avea constanta si nu se accidenta  

 

putem zice ca inainte aveam piloti mediocrii care stateau cu anii in MotoGP. acum daca nu ai confirmat sau nu ai avut macar cateva rezultate bune in primii doi ani esti zburat imediat ca vin altii cu acelasi potential. 

Ha ha, interesant si asta:

 

If Ducati wrap up the title this weekend, it will be the first time in history that 4 different manufacturers have won the riders 500cc/MotoGP championship in 4 consecutive seasons, the record being 3 achieved in:

1949-1951
1974-1976
1982-1984
1992-1994
2005-2007
2019-2021

interesant articol cu care pot fi de aceeasi parere:

 

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/why-are-modern-motogp-riders-so-inconsistent

 

Top MotoGP riders are more inconsistent now than they’ve been ever before.

This understandably confuses a lot of fans and can make MotoGP impossible to understand: how can the same rider and motorcycle finish second one weekend and tenth the next? Was the rider just not bothered the second time out, so he decided to have a lazy Sunday? Did his engineers decide to take the weekend off and drink beers in the hotel bar?

There has to be a reason, so is it because today’s MotoGP riders are lazy, unfocused and too busy spending their millions on fast cars and swimming pools?

The results of recent seasons suggest that might be the case.

The entire top ten flashed past the chequered flag separated by five seconds in Qatar and Australia

In 2020 Joan Mir won the MotoGP title by scoring just 48% of the available points. Fabio Quartararo won last year’s crown with 62% of the points. Now Pecco Bagnaia is on the verge of winning this year’s championship, having scored 54% of the points from the first 19 races. This puts them all near the bottom of average points scores since the first world championship in 1949.

Compare these numbers to MotoGP kings of recent decades: Wayne Rainey won the 1990 title scoring 85% of the points, Mick Doohan took the 1997 crown on 90%, Valentino Rossi the 2003 championship on 89%, Casey Stoner the 2011 title on 82%, Jorge Lorenzo the 2015 crown on 73% and Marc Márquez the 2019 championship on 88% (the greatest premier-class campaign of all time, by the way, with spec tyres and electronics).

So surely today’s MotoGP winners must be a bit useless by comparison? Of course not. The exact opposite, in fact.

...

“I think Marc had such a mental gain on everyone when he was dominating that the other guys almost thought they were racing for second,” he says. “The guy could do what he wanted. Then when he got hurt there was a new young generation coming in, who hadn’t been beaten up by him as much as the boys before, so maybe they thought that when the king is away the dogs will play. So they got better in their minds and all of sudden they had chances of winning and when you win you just get more and more confidence and it’s a snowball. There was no real leader in the class, so everyone was having a crack at it.”

 

...

“You remember the days of the ‘aliens’ [Rossi, Lorenzo, Márquez and so on]… If they had a bad day they were fourth or fifth, now you’re 15th. This is the reality. It’s also the way the boys are riding, how they’ve changed their styles and they’re all pure athletes and fully committed.

“I think the class has never been so stacked with talent. The will to win from the manufacturers and the riders has brought us into this era – it’s just a consequence of all that stuff.

“It can be really frustrating – you have a good race and you think, ‘What did we do different?’. Everyone is trying to drag everything out of the bike, but it’s milliseconds that make the difference now.

...

So, to sum up: any fans complaining about MotoGP riders being a bit useless because they can’t bring home big points hauls, week in, week out, don’t know what they’re talking about

Acum 16 ore, PzKpfW a spus:

Cred că este un atac subtil la adresa celor de la Kawasaki. Are nevoie de o motocicletă nouă și de mai multă putere. Pere Riba (inginerul șef al lui Rea) spune că ar avea nevoie de ~20cp în plus pentru a se bate cu Bautista. Este mult. Deși avantajul cuplului Ducati/Bautista nu se rezumă doar la putere.

 

cred ca mai degraba un atac la cati bani baga altii in motocicleta de baza de la care pleaca cea de SBK:

 

Having the best material is great, even if in a championship like this production-derived one, it is up to the manufacturer to decide what to bring to the track. A performance balance brings a lot of variety, but that's not what everyone is aiming for. I understand the idea of super concessions, but I'd like to see a championship where the best bike is built within the homologation and regulation limits. In this way, anyone would be tempted to buy that bike. But how do you do it when at the dealers you can find one for 40,000 euros and another for 17,000 euros? It's not quite the same thing. 

La anul o sa mai fie un factor care poate schimba multe: sezorul unic de presiune in roti. Nu o sa mai mearga ca unii sa aiba 1 si altii altfel de 1 care e mai performant.

Acum 3 ore, frigider a spus:

Corect,dar același lucru se poate spune despre Peco.

Gândește te ca a căzut atunci fix din spatele lui Q..te doare capu.

Diferenta e ca Pecco trebuia sa recupereze pe cand Fabio trebuia sa mearga la cat mai multe puncte ii permite mobra.

Martin a demonstrat de ce a fost ales Enea la echipa de uzina. A fost tare in gura inainte de cursa si a dat-o de gard cand era singur ne presat de nimeni.

 

Fabio daca ar fi avut minte mai multa si mai lua cateva locuri sub 6 in loc de DNFuri inca avea sanse. Din pacate atunci a vrut mai mult decat poate motocicleta aia.

mda, cam asa a fost evolutia: