MotoGP - Discutii generale

[danypop]

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1014814/1/marquez-s-reputation-going-against-him-after-rins-martin-comments

"măicuțele" au început sa se plângă

Mi-e mila de ei deja de pe acum de ce o să-i aștepte la anul dacă acum se plâng

Ușor ușor își revine Marquez și "își întra în ritm" 

[Kagemusha]

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/10/21/tardozzi-s-top-quotes-from-his-motogp-podcast-appearance/441631

 

De la Davide cetire.

[apriliacluj]

La 19.10.2022 la 18:11, danypop a spus:

 

Ușor ușor își revine Marquez și "își întra în ritm" 

+1!

yepp!

[Robyb]

e doar o chestiune de timp pana forteaza in stilul lui caracteristic si pica se reaccidenteaza si aia a fost. 

 

Un ghiolban 

[danypop]

Eu zic sa dai o fuga repede să-i spui ca să știe și el cum merg lucrurile. Ca vad ca ii porți tare de grijă

Evident ca e "un ghiolban" ca forțează. Un adevărat domn merge la pas și nu se accidentează.

Editat Octombrie 21, 2022 de danypop

[frigider]

Acum 1 oră, danypop a spus:

Un adevărat domn merge la pas și nu se accidentează.

*si termina de pe 2 in jos. 

[xt600]

Marquez: "Here, he has to take a real risk if he wants to have a chance in Valencia."

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1014858/1/marquez-quartararo-has-take-real-risk-if-he-wants-title

[PzKpfW]

 

Luca Marini

(...) Honda dominated for 10 years and nobody was complaining about this. Just spend more money or make a better job, I don’t know, just try to improve.

 

Marini’s reference to Honda dominance presumably alludes to the end of the 500cc era and the early days of MotoGP – the former span having included a 1997 season in which Honda won every race and its riders claimed all but six of the available podium finishes.

[xt600]

Acum 8 ore, Robyb a spus:

 

Un ghiolban 

Ca om este detestabil, dar ma tem ca avem nevoie de ghiolban, daca nu vrem sa vedem un intreg sezon 2023 cu victorii la contratimp pe echipe, marca Ducati. 

[frigider]

1 oră în urmă, xt600 a spus:

Ca om este detestabil

cred ca exagerezi, concluzia asta o tragi dupa ce ai baut minim 2 beri cu el.

 

ca pilot poate vrei sa zici   

[xt600]

Acum 12 ore, frigider a spus:

cred ca exagerezi, concluzia asta o tragi dupa ce ai baut minim 2 beri cu el.

 

Nu as vrea sa beau vreo bere cu el. 

 

Comportamentul lui, ca pilot, este determinat de caracterul lui. 

[danypop]

https://m.gpone.com/en/2022/10/22/motogp/marquez-on-the-controversy-of-2015-i-would-behave-in-the-same-way-with-rossi.html

[xt600]

 Crash: https://www.gpone.com/en/blog/paolo-scalera/2022/10/20/crutchlow-the-yamaha-engine-is-too-aggressive-the-electronics-dont

 

 

Crutchlow: “We've been through four stages of engines...."

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/10/25/crutchlow-four-stages-of-engines-tested-for-2023-yamaha/443207

[danypop]

https://www.motogp.com/en/in the media/2022/10/26/quartararo-set-for-surgery-following-valencia-gp/443238

[PzKpfW]

Nu e o problemă gravă și probabil va fi recuperat pentru sesiunea de teste.

[danypop]

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/1015626/1/marc-marquez-2022-honda-character-worse-lap-time-better

[PzKpfW]

Puțin F1, dar trebuia. Casca lui Jack, fiul lui Mick.

 

[ioio_viola]

interesant articol cu care pot fi de aceeasi parere:

 

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/why-are-modern-motogp-riders-so-inconsistent

 

Top MotoGP riders are more inconsistent now than they’ve been ever before.

This understandably confuses a lot of fans and can make MotoGP impossible to understand: how can the same rider and motorcycle finish second one weekend and tenth the next? Was the rider just not bothered the second time out, so he decided to have a lazy Sunday? Did his engineers decide to take the weekend off and drink beers in the hotel bar?

There has to be a reason, so is it because today’s MotoGP riders are lazy, unfocused and too busy spending their millions on fast cars and swimming pools?

The results of recent seasons suggest that might be the case.

The entire top ten flashed past the chequered flag separated by five seconds in Qatar and Australia

In 2020 Joan Mir won the MotoGP title by scoring just 48% of the available points. Fabio Quartararo won last year’s crown with 62% of the points. Now Pecco Bagnaia is on the verge of winning this year’s championship, having scored 54% of the points from the first 19 races. This puts them all near the bottom of average points scores since the first world championship in 1949.

Compare these numbers to MotoGP kings of recent decades: Wayne Rainey won the 1990 title scoring 85% of the points, Mick Doohan took the 1997 crown on 90%, Valentino Rossi the 2003 championship on 89%, Casey Stoner the 2011 title on 82%, Jorge Lorenzo the 2015 crown on 73% and Marc Márquez the 2019 championship on 88% (the greatest premier-class campaign of all time, by the way, with spec tyres and electronics).

So surely today’s MotoGP winners must be a bit useless by comparison? Of course not. The exact opposite, in fact.

...

“I think Marc had such a mental gain on everyone when he was dominating that the other guys almost thought they were racing for second,” he says. “The guy could do what he wanted. Then when he got hurt there was a new young generation coming in, who hadn’t been beaten up by him as much as the boys before, so maybe they thought that when the king is away the dogs will play. So they got better in their minds and all of sudden they had chances of winning and when you win you just get more and more confidence and it’s a snowball. There was no real leader in the class, so everyone was having a crack at it.”

 

...

“You remember the days of the ‘aliens’ [Rossi, Lorenzo, Márquez and so on]… If they had a bad day they were fourth or fifth, now you’re 15th. This is the reality. It’s also the way the boys are riding, how they’ve changed their styles and they’re all pure athletes and fully committed.

“I think the class has never been so stacked with talent. The will to win from the manufacturers and the riders has brought us into this era – it’s just a consequence of all that stuff.

“It can be really frustrating – you have a good race and you think, ‘What did we do different?’. Everyone is trying to drag everything out of the bike, but it’s milliseconds that make the difference now.

...

So, to sum up: any fans complaining about MotoGP riders being a bit useless because they can’t bring home big points hauls, week in, week out, don’t know what they’re talking about

[danypop]

Perfect de-acord

[tourist1]

Poate sunt si motocicletele mai greu de setat, iar acum parca mai mult ca oricand motocicletele sunt de performante apropiate, detaliile mici facand diferenta decisiva.

 

Rossi, Lorenzo, Marquez erau la Yamaha si Honda. Cei care contau. A fost si Ducati o perioada. Honda si Yamaha au livrat constant clientilor material de concurs net inferior. Cine sa-i bata pe cei din echipele de uzina?

 

In plus, s-a mai discutat ca noile generatii sunt foarte concentrate pe performanta sportiva, nu pe restul din jur. S-a discutat asta, cred ca si Rossi a vorbit despre.

 

Treaba cu gandul la cheltuitul banilor chiar cred ca n-are niciun sens in contextul dat.

 

[PzKpfW]

1 hour ago, therocketscientist1 said:

motocicletele sunt de performante apropiate, detaliile mici facand diferenta decisiva.

 

Cam aia e.

[frigider]

Acum 3 ore, ioio_viola a spus:

interesant articol cu care pot fi de aceeasi parere:

 

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/why-are-modern-motogp-riders-so-inconsistent

 

Top MotoGP riders are more inconsistent now than they’ve been ever before.

This understandably confuses a lot of fans and can make MotoGP impossible to understand: how can the same rider and motorcycle finish second one weekend and tenth the next? Was the rider just not bothered the second time out, so he decided to have a lazy Sunday? Did his engineers decide to take the weekend off and drink beers in the hotel bar?

There has to be a reason, so is it because today’s MotoGP riders are lazy, unfocused and too busy spending their millions on fast cars and swimming pools?

The results of recent seasons suggest that might be the case.

The entire top ten flashed past the chequered flag separated by five seconds in Qatar and Australia

In 2020 Joan Mir won the MotoGP title by scoring just 48% of the available points. Fabio Quartararo won last year’s crown with 62% of the points. Now Pecco Bagnaia is on the verge of winning this year’s championship, having scored 54% of the points from the first 19 races. This puts them all near the bottom of average points scores since the first world championship in 1949.

Compare these numbers to MotoGP kings of recent decades: Wayne Rainey won the 1990 title scoring 85% of the points, Mick Doohan took the 1997 crown on 90%, Valentino Rossi the 2003 championship on 89%, Casey Stoner the 2011 title on 82%, Jorge Lorenzo the 2015 crown on 73% and Marc Márquez the 2019 championship on 88% (the greatest premier-class campaign of all time, by the way, with spec tyres and electronics).

So surely today’s MotoGP winners must be a bit useless by comparison? Of course not. The exact opposite, in fact.

...

“I think Marc had such a mental gain on everyone when he was dominating that the other guys almost thought they were racing for second,” he says. “The guy could do what he wanted. Then when he got hurt there was a new young generation coming in, who hadn’t been beaten up by him as much as the boys before, so maybe they thought that when the king is away the dogs will play. So they got better in their minds and all of sudden they had chances of winning and when you win you just get more and more confidence and it’s a snowball. There was no real leader in the class, so everyone was having a crack at it.”

 

...

“You remember the days of the ‘aliens’ [Rossi, Lorenzo, Márquez and so on]… If they had a bad day they were fourth or fifth, now you’re 15th. This is the reality. It’s also the way the boys are riding, how they’ve changed their styles and they’re all pure athletes and fully committed.

“I think the class has never been so stacked with talent. The will to win from the manufacturers and the riders has brought us into this era – it’s just a consequence of all that stuff.

“It can be really frustrating – you have a good race and you think, ‘What did we do different?’. Everyone is trying to drag everything out of the bike, but it’s milliseconds that make the difference now.

...

So, to sum up: any fans complaining about MotoGP riders being a bit useless because they can’t bring home big points hauls, week in, week out, don’t know what they’re talking about

tare asta cu procentele.

patetice unele cifre :)) 

[ioio_viola]

Ha ha, interesant si asta:

 

If Ducati wrap up the title this weekend, it will be the first time in history that 4 different manufacturers have won the riders 500cc/MotoGP championship in 4 consecutive seasons, the record being 3 achieved in:

1949-1951
1974-1976
1982-1984
1992-1994
2005-2007
2019-2021

[PzKpfW]

Nu au reușit să cumpere Ducati, au cumpărat MV Agusta.

[frigider]

Acum 12 minute, PzKpfW a spus:

Nu au reușit să cumpere Ducati, au cumpărat MV Agusta.

intr-un fel ii inteleg.

uneori ma apuca si pe mine cumparatul de ceva, dar la un nivel o idee mai mic.