StefanDaniel02 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Sa speram ca amestecul este prea bogat.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adidas Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Are sa nu, radiator cu ulei? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanDaniel02 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Da, are un radiator foarte micut , cu ulei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuk Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Daca uleiul a fost diluat bine cu benzina (din carburator curge in cilindru si ajunge in ulei) atunci s-a futu.t tot in el. Presupun ca este o mobra ieftina in care nu vrei sa bagi 1000€ fara garantie, deci poti lua in calcul achizitia unui motor care nu consuma ulei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adidas Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Eu am patit chestia asta cu un Bandit, am bagat ulei pana la nivel dar nu am luat in calcul ce a mai ramas in radiator. Am pornit, am incalzit motorul, oprit, verificat nivel, tutto bene, parcat si noapte buna, a doua zi, ulei peste nivel si fum. Am dat afara cateva sute de ml, pana la nivel si a disparut fumul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanDaniel02 Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 Am verificat de 15 ori uleiul , tot acelasi nivel , in fiecare saptamana in verific dar problema e ca nu am mers cu ea, am facut 15km de cand am completat ulei. si tot la acelasi nivel si masurat eu stand pe motor tinandul drept , cu motorul complet rece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john17 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Pai si de ce-l tot verifici daca nu mergi cu ea?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenberg Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanDaniel02 Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 Pentru ca deocamdata nu am luat permisul. Revin cu informatii am facut test de compresie Pistonul drept 12 bari (170psi) Pistonul stang 12bari ( 190 psi) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMWs1000RR Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Măsurători făcute cu ruleta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valentin.urda Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 190 psi = 13.1 Bar 170 psi = 11.72 Bar In carte scrie ca trebuie sa aibe intre 142-199psi, daca au fost citite corect, motorul e in parametri.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanDaniel02 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 Mai greseste omul domne , nu sariti cu gura acum... Pistonul drept 12 bari (170psi) Pistonul stang 13bari ( 190 psi) » Post actualizat in 28 Sep 2018 16:43Si da , sunt citite corect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo4hgx Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 De curiozitate, cum ai facut masuratorile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanDaniel02 Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 introdus testerul de compresie in locul la bujie, acceleratie trasa la maxim, si dat la automat pana cand nu se mai ridica acul de pe testul de compresie. si asa am facut si la celalalt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo4hgx Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Cu ce baterie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanDaniel02 Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 cu bateria originala din moto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo4hgx Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Testul se face cu baterie de masina si cabluri groase, de preferat fara carburatoare, filtru de aer, etc. Testul de compresie e oricum relativ, depinde de ce ulei e in motor si cat a trecut de la ultima pornire, complementar se face si “leakdown”, unul masoara ce compresie produce motorul, celalalt cat pierde... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john17 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Cu acceleratia deschisa cat mai obtureaza carburatorul si filtrul?! Cel mult dai inca o tura la demaror pana ajunge presiunea la maxim (oricum dai pana nu se mai ridica indicatorul). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo4hgx Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Probabil ca nu foarte mult... insa nu am citit sa fi fost golite carburatoarele inainte de masuratoare si nici ca bateria sa fi fost incarcata la maximum ulterior. Presupun ca macar bujiile au fost scoase din ambii cilindri... Compresie in parametri nu inseamna neparat si ca motorul este in parametri, depozite de calamina in capetele pistoanelor sau in chiuloasa pot masca uzurile segmentilor si/sau etansarea supapelor. In fine, ce vreau sa spun e ca avand in vedere ca este vorba despre un motor a carui istorie nu se cunoaste este nevoie de o verificare mai temeinica pentru a afla sursa consumului de ulei. Inspectia si masurarea segmentilor si canalelor, etanseitatea supapelor, semeringurilor, etc... si nu in ultimul rand, uzura cilindrilor si a pistoanelor. Altfel... las-o-asa ca merge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john17 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Cand or masca depunerile de calamina mai ales neetanseitatea supapelor ma las de meserie si dau la medicina! Iar pe la supape/scaune nu consuma ulei. Si de ce ar trebui golit carburatorul?!? In rest CHIU-LA-SA!!! Edited October 1, 2018 by john17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMWs1000RR Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Mecanica tot un fel de medicina e! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john17 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Mda, dar vorba unei mandre de-a mea din tinerete si care studia medicina, felcerii se streseaza mai putin daca le moare pacientul pe masa decat mine de fiarele pe care le operez in garaj... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenberg Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 La valori de compresie pe care le a măsurat nu mai vad rostul de discuții de baterie, cat de cald era afara, samd. Doar daca erau mici mai merita săpat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo4hgx Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Cand or masca depunerile de calamina mai ales neetanseitatea supapelor ma las de meserie si dau la medicina! Iar pe la supape/scaune nu consuma ulei. Si de ce ar trebui golit carburatorul?!? In rest CHIU-LA-SA!!! Depunerile de calamina micsoreaza volumul camerei de ardere si cresc valorile (masurate) ale compresiei. Carburatorul ar trebui golit pentru ca benzina trasa in cilindru poate altera masuratorile. Nu stiu ce meserie ai dar cu siguranta nu esti medic... altfel ai sti ca etanseitatea segmentilor este realizata de catre aerul care patrunde prin canal in spatele acestora si ii impinge inspre peretii cilindrului. » Post actualizat in 02 Oct 2018 11:31 P.S. CHIU-LOA-SA!!! Asa am auzit la tata... asa o sa-i zic toata viata! VI-BRO-CHEN!!! Nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotRU2Me Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Nu cumva confunzi raportul de compresie cu compresia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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