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"Nu reusesti sa fii consevent nici macar cu ultimul tau post de azi, si vrei sa-mi spui ce-o sa fie peste un an, peste cinci ani chiar?" Cum adica nu sunt consecvent bai baiatule ? Ce glob de cristal si cu ce-am debutat eu ?

Tocmai ce mi-ai zis ca nu-mi mai raspunzi, si-ai luat-o de la capat cu teroia conspiratiei. Cu inconsecventa asta de la un minut la altul vrei sa ma convingi cu "argumente" ca "iti zic eu ca peste un an, peste cinci ani". Aici e globul ala de cristal care nu stie nici macar ce-o sa faci tu peste 10 minute. Cum vrei sa te iau in serios?

 

Iti plac niste piloti mai slabi decat VR. Eu il consider cel mai bun pilot din istorie. Ai vreo problema cu asta ?

Poate sa-mi placa si de ultimul pilot de pe grila. Nu trebuie sa fie cel mai bun, atat timp cat demonstreaza ca stie sa fie corect atunci cand conteaza cel mai mult.

Rossi nu mai e de mult cel mai bun pilot din grila, iar la lipsa de scupule tocmai ce l-a intrecut pe Marquez. Fiind ultimii la coada in ceea ce priveste fair play-ul.

Tie poate sa-ti placa si de Pol Pot, e treaba ta. Dar nu te mai ambala asa doar pt ca-ti raspundeam la niste mistificari. Scrie la tine pe facebook daca nu-ti place sa-ti si raspunda lumea.

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Eu nu am o problema cu ale tale contra-argumente, sau ale oricui altcuiva. Problema este ca nu inteleg ce vrei sa demonstrezi. Da, nu mai este clar in varful carierei sale, dar per total, VR este tatal lor, ca sa insumez intr-o maniera mai de la tara ce reprezinta ca pilot. Iar tu spui contrariul. Ai dreptate, am fost inconsecvent, si o sa indrept asta: a fost ultimul raspuns la postarile tale. Ideea de baza: m-ai contrazis ca n-ar fi cel mai bun pilot cu argumente gen "cand concura nu avea contracandidati de calibru" si te inseli. Este cel mai bun din istorie sau dupa giaccomo. Pentru mine, asta este parerea mea si a multor milioane de fani si altor cateva mii/zeci de mii de specialisti.

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blablab lablablablablablablablablablah Pentru mine, asta este parerea mea si a multor milioane de fani si altor cateva mii/zeci de mii de specialisti.

Zeci de mii de specialisti in ce?

Specialisti in fluturat steaguri si huduit castigatorii curselor?

N-ai inteles ca nu e vorba de pareri aici, ci de rezultate? Motorsportul nu nici sondaj de opinie nici concurs de popularitate.

De la debutul noii generatii, Rossi are si el ddoua titluri mondiale, la fel ca Stoner sau Marquez, care e abia la inceput de drum. Si mai putine titluri decat coechipierul sau.

De sase an incoace asta a fost singura data cand a mai lasat impresia ca ar putea bifa un titlu. Si a fost o impresie construita cu noroc, ca de abia se taraia pe final de sezon.

Mie mi se pare ca in loc sa apreciati o intrecere sportiva, voi va indrgostiti de niste piloti. Parca ati fi groupies la un concert.

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....................voi va indrgostiti de niste piloti. Parca ati fi groupies la un concert.

si care e problema ta?

vine Dabija?

sau nu dormi bine la noapte?

 

e tara libera, feicare cu parerea lui, daca omu' s-a indragostit sa-i fie de bine, lasa-l pe Dabija in norocul lui :)

nu te necaji tu de dragostea sau fanatismul cuiva!

 

sau ai topicul cu Coltul Haterilor lui Rossi, de ce nu scrii acolo?

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Ati vazut reclama de la R1M ? De ce oare a fost Rossi preferat campionului en-titre lorenzo pt prezentare ? Astia sunt nemultumiti ca sunt prea putini sa vb intre ei. Nu vedeti ce argumente dau ei, haterii ? Ca in ultimii ani a castigat doar 2 titluri. Defalcheaza cariera lu Rossi pe bucatile care le convin lor si vin cu ineptii de genul "cifrele vorbesc" cand taman aia putem sa le spunem noi. Sa se uite la cifre. Oamenii sunt nebagati in seama

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Nu intelegeti ideea de dialog. Si din nou sare in ochi paralela cu o secta religioasa. Credinta nu se discuta, suntem in biserica si aici doar ne inchinam idolului nostru favorit, care aduce muritorilor de rand R1M. Si orice ar face si orice ne-ar spune altii, noi suntem de neclintit. Asta dupa ce ati umplut tot internetul, ca restul discutiilor de pe aici, cu manifestarile astea de suporteri inraiti.

De ce nu si aici,?

Oh, e pamant sacru. Nu incercati sa ne schimbati credinta.

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Nu intelegeti ideea de dialog. Si din nou sare in ochi paralela cu o secta religioasa. Credinta nu se discuta, suntem in biserica si aici doar ne inchinam idolului nostru favorit, care aduce muritorilor de rand R1M. Si orice ar face si orice ne-ar spune altii, noi suntem de neclintit. Asta dupa ce ati umplut tot internetul, ca restul discutiilor de pe aici, cu manifestarile astea de suporteri inraiti.

De ce nu si aici,?

Oh, e pamant sacru. Nu incercati sa ne schimbati credinta.

Ce vrei oare sa ne dovedesti prin atitea si atitea povesti, ...........ca ce ???

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He may have missed out on his 10th World Championship by a whisker, but Valentino Rossi's brilliance is unquestioned. But is he the greatest racer of all time?

 

t’s the oldest argument among fans of any sport: who is the greatest of all time? Is Pele the greatest footballer, is Muhammad Ali the greatest boxer, is Michael Schumacher the greatest in a racing car?

 

Some say it is the most futile of arguments. How can you compare Schumacher with Fangio, Ali with Tyson or Pele with Ronaldo? But we can’t help doing it, can we?

 

Which brings us to motorcycle racing – and whether Valentino Rossi is the greatest bike racer who has ever lived.

 

Fans have been hailing him as the greatest of all time (a tribute now abbreviated to the ugly acronym GOAT) for many years, specifically since he won five consecutive premier-class titles, a feat matched only by Giacomo Agostini and Mick Doohan. Before that run of 500cc two-stroke and MotoGP four-stroke titles, which stretched from 2001 to 2005, he had already triumphed in the 125 and 250 classes and since then he has won two further MotoGP titles. Now, after his doldrum years at Ducati, he is winning again and challenging for a tenth world title, at the age of 36.

 

If there were any doubters, most have surely been swayed by this stunning return to form: racing and beating riders who were schoolkids or even toddlers when he was winning his first world championships. When Rossi made his GP debut on 31st March 1996, Marc Marquez had just celebrated his third birthday.

 

Rossi has now been winning GPs for 18 years and premier-class GPs for 15 years, a time span that comfortably eclipses the sport’s most evergreen heroes. The other longest-lasting careers belong to Agostini, Phil Read and Alex Barros, whose first and final premier-class victories covered a mere 11 seasons.

 

Of course, Rossi is too modest to claim that he is the GOAT. All he will say is that he’s somewhere in motorcycle racing’s all-time top three, along with 1960s and 1970s aces Agostini and Mike Hailwood.

 

“I am on the podium of history,” he grins. “But it is impossible to say if I am better than Ago or Mike.”

 

Many people might take issue with Rossi’s top three. I would ask Ago to step down and invite King Kenny Roberts, the Californian cowboy who ruled the late 1970s and changed the sport forever, to take his place.

 

That’s the problem with this argument. Numbers aren’t enough. Agostini is still the most successful rider of all time with 122 GP wins and 15 world titles to his name, but for much of that time he was the only factory rider on the grid, riding an 80bhp MV Agusta against a bunch of skint privateers on 50bhp Nortons. The disparity of machinery was such that he often won races by a whole lap, not the tenths of a second that have been the norm for Rossi, who has raced in the most competitive era of all time, with bikes separated by mere hundredths per lap.

 

And yet Agostini did twice beat Mike the Bike and Honda’s mighty RC181 to the 500 world title, which does complicate the claims of the huge number of fans who insist that Hailwood is unquestionably the greatest ever. But if you want to continue with this argument you need to consider the relative merits of the MV and the Honda, because machinery is always a major part of the equation in motor sport.

 

And if we return to straightforward numbers, Rossi has won more victories than anyone in the category that really matters – the premier class. He has 84 wins (at the time of writing) to Ago’s 68 and Doohan’s 54. And he’s done that on 500cc two-strokes, and 990cc, 800cc and 1000cc four-strokes; a huge range of machinery during an era when technical development (especially electronics) has demanded radical changes in riding technique.

 

Rossi recently became only the second rider after Ago to achieve 110 GP victories, an astonishing feat in a sport that has a nasty habit of chewing up and spitting out even its greatest exponents. And he is the only rider in history to have won consecutive premier-class GPs on different brands of machinery.

 

So why is Rossi so remarkable? Of course he is the complete racer, and his talent is sublime. But that’s just the start of it. What has allowed him to exploit his natural talent over such a long time are his love of racing and his high-voltage intelligence. Engineers who work with him are amazed at his ability to analyse machine behaviour.

 

“When Valentino comes into the pits he’s like a computer,” said Jerry Burgess, his crew chief from 2000 to 2013. “He gives you a list of six or eight things he wants looking at, like a download. He’s more analytical than the rest of them and he has the ability to process information so fast and so accurately. Whether the little electric pulses in his brain fire a bit better than yours or mine, I don’t know.”

 

Rossi also has bravery in abundance, an important requirement on two wheels. He has missed just four races since his GP debut in 1996, since when he has contested 320 or so races, some of them with a broken bone or two. Then again, his longevity can be attributed to all kinds of advances: safer bikes, safer tracks and safer riding gear. Let us not forget that the three greats who preceded his reign at the top of the class of kings all retired hurt: Mick Doohan, Kevin Schwantz and Wayne Rainey.

 

Last, but not least, there is something of the good, old-fashioned racetrack maniac about Rossi. Over the years he has made some very heavy passes. “On track, Valentino’s pretty vicious,” affirmed his former MotoGP rival Colin Edwards.

 

During his years as Rossi’s Yamaha team-mate, Edwards was able to inspect Rossi’s data, to gaze in wonder at the curves and squiggles that revealed the Italian’s genius in meticulous detail. The ride that most impressed Edwards was Rossi’s walking-on-water victory in the rain-lashed 2005 British GP at Donington.

 

“I locked the front a couple of times and nearly crashed and it scared the shit out of me,” says the Texan. “After the race I looked at his data and it was scary. The guy was locking the front on a track that was slicker than snot; he had it locked at every other corner. I asked him, was your front locked? He said, oh yeah, a couple of times. I looked at the computer and it was, like, a couple of times? Fuck, it was every corner. This guy’s crazy!”

 

Leaving aside talent (or the skill to ride like a lunatic and yet maintain control while others are crashing all around you), there’s one thing about Rossi that’s beyond argument: he is the most famous motorcycle racer of all time, just like Ali is the most famous boxer of all time.

 

Rarely has one man carried a sport like Rossi carries MotoGP. Such is the Italian’s mainstream appeal that sponsorship finders shudder whenever mention is made of his retirement. “When he goes, it will be like a desert round here,” says one MotoGP money man. Another suggests his exit will hurt the series more than would Ferrari quitting Formula 1.

 

So, a final question. Do I think Rossi is the greatest of all time? It obviously doesn’t matter what I think, but for the record my answer is yes. It is his return to form after his years in the wilderness that made up my mind, and elevated him beyond Hailwood, with Roberts in third place.

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Nu stiu ce importanta are cine e cel mai mare din toate timpurile pentru ca in MotoGP e mult prea dificil de facut comparatii din cauza ca lucrurile s-au schimbat destul de radical (de la regulamente pana la motociclete). Dupa parerea mea, Rossi e unul din cei mai buni din toate timpurile si cel mai bun din era moderna.

 

In schimb nenea care a scris articolul nu prea se pricepe la alte sporturi.

 

La fotbal Maradona e cel mai mare, iar in box indiscutabil e Rocky Marciano.

 

Noi, ca romani, ar trebui sa ne mandrim cu Nadia Comaneci - cea mai buna gimnasta din toate timpurile, Elisabeta Lipa - cea mai buna canotoare din toate timpurile, Iolanda Balas - cea mai buna saritoare in inaltime din toate timpurile, Ivan Patzaichin - cel mai bun canoist din toate timpurile.

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Each year the Monster Energy Monza Rally brings together a variety of famous racers from both two and four wheels. Previous winners have included rally legend Sebastien Loeb and former Formula 1 driver Robert Kubica. Many see the event as a sort of end of year party, but when racers are involved even the most casual of event becomes fiercely competitive. Once more Valentino Rossi showed his speed on both two and fours wheels to return to the top step of the podium again.

 

Entering the final day of the event with a lead of over 33 seconds, Rossi was confident with just the final two stages to go. Taking victory by over 50 seconds at the end, the Italian beat out current World Rally Championship stars such as Thierry Neuville and Motocross legend Tony Cairoli. Rossi and co-driver Carlo Cassina had previously won in 2006, 2007 and 2012 with their 2015 victory putting them equal with Capello Rinaldo in the all time winners list.

 

It was not just Rossi participating in the event, his great friend Uccio and Moto3™ race winner Romano Fenati also battled it out around the historic Monza track. Uccio managed fifth as Fenati was 69th on his Rally debut.

 

Valentino Rossi: "This year was special, after the last race in Valencia I wasn’t so happy to come here because I was a bit tired but day by day it improved and to finish the season here in Monza is great. This is a really special event. I can come here and fight with a lot of stronger drivers and after a long season the best thing is the team. It’s great fun, there is always a battle between Uccio and Brivio to see who will win and during the season they are always talking about it - “maybe this time it’s you!’" It’s a good way because we have the thrill of the race but not a lot of pressure. Every year this event goes up and takes a step up, with the good weather we had a lot, a lot of people this year and it’s a great feeling that all the fans come at the end of the season to say goodbye.”

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