Grupul posesorilor de BMW

[anapurna]

Salut colegii!!!!!!!!

Intrebare, oare se poate repara Basic Module ECU la un RT 2014? Face cineva aceasta piesa prin Roamania?

Sau daca nu de unde pot sa cumpar aceasta piesa?

Multumesc.

[DKW]

19 minutes ago, anapurna said:

Sau daca nu de unde pot sa cumpar aceasta piesa?

 

Mototehnica. Motohub, Bavaria, sau, daca ai codul de piesa Autonet, Intecars, Unix, etc.

Editat Februarie 3, 2020 de DKW

[l.u.v]

Acum 50 minute, anapurna a spus:

Intrebare, oare se poate repara Basic Module ECU la un RT 2014? Face cineva aceasta piesa prin Roamania?

România, nu afară da. 

https://www.ecutesting.com/product-catalogue/bmw/r1200/abs-pump-ecumodule-combined/amc108473/

[anapurna]

Multumesc. Am codul de piesa.

[TeDy 'M]

Astept pareri/sfaturi/ răspunsuri 

Ce ulei sa pun in cutia de viteze la R1100RT,? clasic in anii 9x era 80w90 GL5.

Tehnologia aditivilor a evoluat... 

Gandind catre extreme, o varianta este Castrol75w140. 

Sau mai de mijloc Ravenol 75w90, dar fullsyntetic.

Teama îndeobște cunoscuta este pt uleiurile subtiri(stiu-nu uit de aditivarea lor) bașca exploatate in timpul vremurilor noastre mai sufocante,

Deci pt boxerul cu cutie clasica, ce ziceti? 

[l.u.v]

89w90, de ce ai schimba ceva ce merge bine? 

Ca și idee, și la GTR1400 tot 80w90 cere, și e cu 15 ani mai tânără. 

[TeDy 'M]

Pe unele site-uri, acum indica 75w140. 

Eu am pus ochii pe fullsyntetic ul de la Ravenol 75w90.. Mai stau in expectativa. 

 

Pana una alta, intre timp am pus seturile complete de intinzatoare pt lant distributie noi-noi.

Jambele asemenea. 

Maine schimb si pompa de benzina, am vb cu Dan, si am luat VDO modelul de A8. 

Sa vad cum o voi simți dupa ce are telescoapele complet servisate si arcurile noi. 

Bănuiesc ca urmatoarea revizie atat de amănunțită sa fie poate peste vreo 10 ani. 

Las timp meseriasilor si loc pt modelele noi. 

P. S. Stati linistiti ca nu va fi vanduta

 

[l.u.v]

1 oră în urmă, TeDy 'M a spus:

Sa vad cum o voi simți dupa ce are telescoapele complet servisate si arcurile noi

La furca nu simti nimic, amortizorul central are rol important, furcile sunt doar de ghidaj. La ce arcuri faci referire?

[TeDy 'M]

La singurele care le are.

Cele 2 de pe telescoape, ca jambele furcii nu au arcuri

Am facut mențiunea ca insumez 150 cu bagaj in cele mai multe dati, +80 cand sunt cu pasager, si ca as vrea sa fie putin mai tari si 1cm mai sus. 

[l.u.v]

Te referi la amortizorul fata si cel central? Ai schimbat arcurile la ele?

 

[TeDy 'M]

Da da, la ele ma refeream. 

Pt greutatea mentionata mai sus, Asa am transmis celor de la atelier. 

Editat Februarie 10, 2020 de TeDy 'M

[BLACK SPIDER]

ce mai zic si altii de transmisie

https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread.php?2026-r1150rt-transmission

BMW TRANSMISSION NOTE

A splendid new boxer. But still criticized for shifting. How come? MO has a look at the builder of BMW's gearboxes.

A condition of the contract with Getrag was "No noise when first gear is engaged!"

Tester Guenter Wimme addressed the issue of shifting behavior unequivocally:

"In the old BMW tradition the great weakness remains: the gearbox. Difficult shifting, long shift lever travel, graunchy shifts between first and second, and still the old tale of woe in finding first at stoplights."

The Bavarians had already contacted gearbox builders in Japan, Italy and Austria. But after ongoing testing of the prototype proposals the source will remain where it has been since 1978: at Getrag in Ludwigsburg, or more precisely, at the Getrag subsidiary, ZWN in Neuenstein/Hohenloh.

Understandably, the people at Getrag don't like hearing the reproach that they can't build a decent transmission for the prestigious BMW bike, all the moreso since the 3,000 workers of the factory supply the cream of the international automakers with their gearboxes.

Of course, their biggest single customer is BMW. The complete automotive line, from the 3-series on, is equipped by Getrag, and also the motorcycle line: old Boxers, new Boxers, and K-series. The exception is the F-650 with the Rotax motor. In round numbers, ZWN/Getrag has built about half a million motorcycle transmissions for BMW. Up till 1978, BMW built their own motorcycle transmissions.

Getrag is proud, and rightly so, of their high automotive product-standard, which applies equally to the motorcycles. All the parts are calculated to take the maximum possible stress from fully-loaded machines, difficult mountain passes and maximum torque. This is a reputation to which we can attest, having performed so many long-distance endurance tests on BMW's. Transmissions of the Bavarian motorcycles are still in spotless condition after 100,000 kilometers and can boast tolerances which would be expected from new parts.

Nevertheless, BMW's new boxers don't come close to delivering the same standard of gear-changing that has been set by comparable machines such as Honda's ST 1100. What is the dirty secret here?

Shifting a BMW transmission requires great concentration.

The light turns green, you pull in the clutch and step on the shift lever of our brand-new Boxer. It doesn't snick into first, it makes no "clack"...On the dash the big neutral "0" still shows on the digital gear indicator and first gear just won't go in. The "hard cases" just keep standing on the pedal and let the clutch out slowly; the more delicate riders go back to neutral, let the clutch back out and start the process over.

How do you suppose the BMW automobile developers would react if they were told that the new top-of-the-line 7-series BMW sedans would only go into first gear only 50% of the time? Of course, they would say, "Guys, get your tails right back to the drawing boards!".

 

[Dan Cata]

Asta ca nu intra in a 1-a nu e nici macar cea mai mare problema la cutiile de 1150

[proffroad]

La R1200RT 2008, adusă din Anglia, se poate regla farul pentru conducerea pe partea dreaptă? 

[Gixu.]

La 01.03.2020 la 19:44, Dan Cata a spus:

Asta ca nu intra in a 1-a nu e nici macar cea mai mare problema la cutiile de 1150

 

Ma tenteaza un 1150(R,GS,RT) sau un 1100 S pe post de a doua mobra, buna la toate. O Italia in Weekend, la munca ocazional si eventualele drumuri virajate de weekend cand Busa nu e acasa :))

 

Au ajuns la ~ 3000 euro si sunt tentante rau.

 

La ce trebuie sa ma uit?

 

Multumesc anticiapat.

 

 

[Dan Cata]

... la un 1100gs :))

 

[Gixu.]

Rahan, am zis vechi, nu antic :))

 

RT-ul si R-ul sunt primele pe lista. Dupa experienta de acum 2 ani cu K12- RS-ul cumparat cu cateva zile inainte de concediu dupa ce a crapat, din nou, domnul Softail, am ramas cu gandul la un boxer de la ei.

 

 

 

Editat Martie 5, 2020 de Gixu.

[gabyshor]

Apai la 3k, zice bine Dan

 

[mihai263788]

Salut baieti! 

Am primit de curand un S1000RR model 2020 (comandat de anul trecut pe vremea asta  ) si vreau sa imi montez o priza USB pentru incarcat telefonul. Stiu ca ar trebui sa existe o mufa de accesorii undeva pe partea dreapta. Stie cineva sub care din carene? Nu vreau sa ma apuc de demontat aiurea.

 

Si...ar mai fi ceva...La modelul 2020 saua pasagerului este extrem de mica (cam cat palma) si destul de tare. Nu intentionez sa ma apuc de retapitat saua pentru ca nu vreau sa stric aspectul motorului insa stiti sa existe ceva huse capitonate sau cu gel care sa se poata monta peste saua originala?

Editat Martie 6, 2020 de mihai263788
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[Gixu.]

Acum 14 ore, gabyshor a spus:

Apai la 3k, zice bine Dan

 

Am pus si un "~" inainte :))

 

1150 R-ul costa cam 3000

E totusi model 2000-2005.

[TeDy 'M]

1150 de ala cu cutie 6 trepte "buna" si servofrana așișderea? 

[Gixu.]

Fix aia. Sau sora ei de la militie.

 

Am cautat si gasit doar cu carte service la zi Atata timp cat a fost ingrijita, nu sunt probleme.

 

K-ul era din 97, avea aproape 70000 km si reviziile la zi. L-am cumparat si doua zile mai tarziu am plecat in concediu in Romania. 5000 km. 

 

Singura buba a fost un bec, schimbat cand am ajuns acasa. In rest, suspensia grozava, Mai ales pe denivelatul de la noi, ciclistica decenta iar consumul grozav. In 5000 km mi-a consumat un pic peste 1 litru de ulei mineral.

 

ABS-ul fusese servisat la fiecare 2 ani si n-a facut niciodata figuri.

 

Singurul deranj a fost pozitia de strutocamila de la ghidon, cu care nu m-am acomodat

 

 

[mihaileahu]

Sambata am reusit si eu sa schimb aripa fata. Acum aratam a motocicleta, desi designerul cred ca ofteaza lung!

Am mai pus si inaltatoare ghidon. Petrecut citeva ore placute, cu o bere, linga trusa de scule!

Cele bune!

[john17]

La 21.02.2020 la 21:12, BLACK SPIDER a spus:

The complete automotive line, from the 3-series on, is equipped by Getrag

Care/când?!? Nu de alta dar stiu sigur niste modele >2005 care au cutii manuale ZF... 

[BLACK SPIDER]

N-as sti sa spun la masini.... Getrag vs ZF

 

CONVERSATION WITH GETRAG/ZWN

Transmission-Questions: What the builders say. MO spoke to Getrag development engineers Klaus Sommer and Eberhard Schaetzle. Both ride their own privately-owned BMWs.

MO:Are the transmissions of the R models similar to those of the K models, broadly speaking?

SOMMER:There exists similarity in concept only. For example the gear ratios, shift mechanism and engagement dogs are different on the K model, and the K model even has a different housing.

MO:Can Getrag-ZWN look back on other motorcycle experience besides BMW?

SOMMER:At Getrag some time ago we manufactured the Yamaha XS 750 shaft drive system, which was designed by Porsche.

MO:Getrag produces these transmissions at considerable expense. Forexample the highest-loaded 5th gearset is finely honed to produce the best possible surface on the flanks of the teeth. The rest of the gears are shaved. Do these transmissions still need to be broken in?

SCHAETZLE:Every fully asssembled transmission goes onto a test stand and is thoroughly tested with hot test-oil. Afterwards the hot oil is extracted and along with it the first wearing-in material.The transmission does not need to be broken in. It can be be fully loaded from the very beginning.

SOMMER:After the first rides, the o-rings in the boxer gearboxes settle in a little. Then the transmission may shift a little easier. This has nothing to do with wearing in. Only the braking effect of the o-rings is slightly lessened. After sufficient operation and with a hot motor a slight ticking noise in neutral can be audible even with an o-ring transmission. This ticking will be louder when the idle synchronization is not meticulously adjusted.

MO:What kind of oil recommendation for the BMW transmission can you give us?

SCHAETZLE:Oil should be seen as an integral part of the transmission. When designing the transmission the load bearing capability of the oil is part of the calculation. We fill the BMW transmissions with SAE 90 GL 5 gear oil manufactured by Fuchs, a brand mainly found as an OEM supplier.

SOMMER:SAE 90-Oil should be used throughout the whole year. It istrue that in winter the shifting will suffer at first from the thick oil, but it should improve during a very short ride. For those to whom this is disturbing, because they make many short trips, for example, can use 75w90 GL 5 in winter as an alternative. In summer it must be changed back to SAE 90 GL 5.

MO:How do you regard oil additives?

SCHAETZLE:Oil additives are always factors which cannot be taken into account when designing and building a transmission. In the best case they don't do any harm. For example, it has not been researched yet how oil additives might react with the new "clean bearings". We therefore rigorously recommend against their use, especially in automotive transmissions. Synchro rings, for example, function only if they can exert some braking effect on the gear wheels. Special extra-slippery additives can result in big damages.

SE pare ma modelele mai  performante au ZF, am vazut articole in care pasionatii fac upgrade......dar sa nu poluam la topicul dedicat moto

 

BMW uses transmissions built by Getrag and ZF, and all E36 (92-98) and E46 (99-06) transmissions have the same bellhousing bolt pattern. As a bonus, the E30 5 speeds also share the same bolt pattern, except rotated 10 degrees. The ratios will appeal to some customers so we'll have a specific adapter for that trans as well.

Although many transmissions will work with these new parts, we narrowed it down to the following three options that seem like the best fit:

5 speed ZF trans (E36 328i and M3, and E46 328i and 330i)

5 speed Getrag 260 trans (available in 6 cylinder E30 cars, longer gearing than the ZF)

6 speed ZF trans (from E46 2003-2006 330i 6 speed cars) 

 

Am inceput sa ma documentez despre BMW deoarece mi-am adus din Germania modelul RT-P

 

an 2003, aprox. 58.000 km, are motorul de 850cc deoarece e de la divizia Kommunale

                

Editat Martie 11, 2020 de BLACK SPIDER