MotoGP presezon 2020

[Kagemusha]

Câteva păreri despre noile anvelope Michelin și motocicletele cu care "se înțeleg" mai bine:

 

Dovizioso:

"The grip is there but the way the tyre works is a bit strange compared to the previous one," he said of the new rear. "
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"You have more grip on the rear so it’s always pushing the front. So the balance is a bit different. And with the electronics. At maximum angle you can lose the grip so quick and easy. But in the traction area you have a lot of grip.
"It’s difficult to manage those two points, also because you have to turn. The transition from the maximum angle to the traction area is not easy."
Dovizioso said he would 'not be surprised' if the characteristics of the new rear tyre were one of the reasons why Yamaha and Suzuki are looking so strong this week. The triple MotoGP title runner-up emphasised he won't be drawing any firm conclusions until the opening race, but admitted to being 'worried'. "
"From what I feel from the tyre, I think it can help a bit more the bikes which can make a bit more speed in the middle of the corners. But this is my feeling. I’m not sure about that. Still I didn’t ride with them. "
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"But I’m not that surprised because in the way they have to ride, maybe it works a bit better. But only the race can show this. Like always at the test, everybody is fast, many people have the pace to fight on the podium. But this is not the reality."
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Monster Yamaha's Maverick Vinales later confirmed: "I made the best rhythm when it was nearly 2pm, which is always really hot. That's important. From morning to afternoon, the bike is very similar, and also the grip."

 

... Danilo Petrucci, 13th on the timesheets, also picked out the inline four-cylinder machines as the bikes to beat at present.
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"I saw that Vinales was very, very quick. Also Rins and Mir are very, very fast. Quartararo and Morbidelli. And also Rossi is good. I think all the Yamahas and Suzukis. And then as always Marc.
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But while the factory team riders struggled over a single flying lap, Pramac's Jack Miller led the timesheets for most of the day and finished a close second to Quartararo.
"It's a big change and the tyre is better, but it's just the way it works it's quite different from other Michelin tyres we have used so setting the bike around that tyre is going to be the key for the first races," Miller said. "It's about getting the balance right.
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Și Marquez:
"It looks like this new Michelin rear tyre changes the balance of the bike and this changes also some parametres on the electronics.
"It has better grip and when you gain rear grip the balance can change: the electronics and also a little bit the riding style. Some bikes will adapt better, some worse..."
There are suggestions the added rear grip could reward the corner-speed characteristics of the inline four-cylinder bikes by Yamaha and Suzuki.
Marquez agreed that riders from those manufacturers are looking strong at Sepang, but isn't sure any particular manufacturer will have an advantage from the new tyre.
"At the moment it looks like the Yamaha riders – Quartararo and Viñales – and the Suzuki riders – both Mir and Rins – are the strongest ones," he said.
"Now it’s one riding style. But at the race weekend it’s completely different and now we have the rubber on the track that it’s impossible to get during a [normal] weekend."
Explaining further, the #93 said that the flowing lines taken by the Yamaha and Suzuki on their hot laps are not always possible for an entire race.
"Riding alone and especially for one lap they are incredibly fast," he said. "But then race distance we need to ride more like a ‘V’ in the corners: go in, stop and pick up.
"We will see in the first races. Last year at some circuits they were riding incredibly fast. But in some circuits the character of the Honda engine was stronger. It depends on the character or the layout of the track.
"At the moment we’re struggling in some points. One of these problems is created by more grip on the rear. We must understand how to improve.
"It’s true if you use more the 'normal' track [cornering lines], if you have more grip you have more advantage. But I believe all manufacturers will have an advantage. The key is understanding how to use that grip."

 

 

Opiniile au fost exprimate ieri, sâmbătă.

Sursele:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935835/1/dovi-left-stiff-neck-worried-yamaha-suzuki

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935833/1/marquez-fast-corner-slow-crash-tyre-engine-priority

[xt600]

Quart din nou primul, MM crash again, 18 piloti intr-o secunda, Iorghe la o sec si 3 zecimi de lider: https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/quartararo-sepang-test-final-day-marquez/4682233/

[Altair]

KTM impresionant pana acum

[Kagemusha]

Și Aprilia, aș zice. Mă întreb ce ar fi făcut Ianonne...

[damager]

Se pare ca Yamaha vine cu rear holeshot la start

 

[P T R]

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/09/motogp/dovizioso-the-best-rins-and-vinales-im-not-riding-the-way-i-want.html

 

[xt600]

Un articol de citit... https://www.gpone.com/en/blog/paolo-scalera/2020/01/31/the-decline-of-valentino-rossi-he-who-laughs-last-laughs-longest.html

Acum 10 ore, Kagemusha a spus:

Și Aprilia, aș zice. Mă întreb ce ar fi făcut Ianonne...

Se pare ca i se simte lipsa la boxele echipei.. https://www.gpone.com/en/blog/paolo-scalera/2020/02/07/doping-the-2020-rs-gp-is-fast-at-sepang-aprilia-regrets-iannone.html

[P T R]

Long runs Sepang Test

 

 

Galbusera e inginerul lui lorenzo

[Method]

Opinii - Petrucci : "The new Michelins enhance the Ducati's weak points : you have to get the best out of them when cornering,while they don't give any support in acceleration.Yamaha and Suzuki are faster than us,Marquez is hiding."

Ha!Ha!

Se pare ca (pana la urma) lucrurile revin incet la normal si nu mai este avantajata acceleratia in dauna vitezei pe viraj,deci motoretele ce sunt construite conform abordarii "clasice" vor fi avantajate.

Mi se pare normal,strategia aplicata cu succes in ultimii ani de Honda si Ducati de a "fenta" curbele prin acel stil stop-and-go mie personal nu mi se parea normal.

 

Pana la urma s-a facut vreun anunt cu privire la cine va transmite cursele de motogp in romania?

[xt600]

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935913/1/rossi-improves-main-issue-just-one-track

[ioio_viola]

si tot de la batranul Rossi:

 

Rossi: "Now you need less technique and more courage in the MotoGP."

 

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/10/motogp/rossi-now-you-need-less-technique-and-more-courage-in-the-motogp.html

 

I've been testing here ever since they opened this circuit, he said jokingly. The current MotoGP bikes require more effort. If I were to ride like I used to years ago, I'd be going too slow. The bikes have improved, the tires have improved, and you have to look at things in a different way. Of course, the older you get, the harder it gets, and this test is the most difficult of the season. It's tough even for young riders, but I trained a lot during the winter, and I'm in better shape than last year.

 

[xt600]

Iar in tabara Ducati lucrurile nu stau chiar pe roze... https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935911/1/ducati-playing-catchup-after-sepang-test

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/935774/1/crutchlow-persist-tricky-scooter-brake

[Method]

Mini Doc despre Miller

[RobertCtin]

Salutare!

Merge careva la Jerez anul acesta?

[xt600]

Un interviu de citit cu Don Carmelo: 

-partea I : https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/16/motogp/ezpeleta-kawasaki-wanted-a-motogp-wild-card-for-their-superbike.html

 

-partea II: https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/17/motogp/ezpeleta-the-big-mess-in-2015-between-rossi-and-marquez-its-still-not-resolved

Si putina teorie despre stiinta (arta?) franarii pe 2 roti.. https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/15/motogp/technique-between-science-and-art-all-the-mysteries-of-braking-revealed.html

 

Si cateva informatii despre sistemele de franare din GP : https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/15/motogp/brembo-unstoppable-motogp-bikes-10-braking-effort-in-2020.html

[Gixu.]

Kawasaki trage de acelasi model cu facelift de aproape 10 ani. Aprilia e cam in aceiasi oala. Dar ca sa ai pretentia de a introduce un zx10 pe post de prototip...Indraznet.

[P T R]

Acum 6 ore, Gixu. a spus:

Kawasaki trage de acelasi model cu facelift de aproape 10 ani. Aprilia e cam in aceiasi oala. Dar ca sa ai pretentia de a introduce un zx10 pe post de prototip...Indraznet.

Sau naivi?

[Method]

Acum 7 ore, Gixu. a spus:

Kawasaki trage de acelasi model cu facelift de aproape 10 ani. Aprilia e cam in aceiasi oala. Dar ca sa ai pretentia de a introduce un zx10 pe post de prototip...Indraznet.

Da am citit si eu ce a zis paleta de Ezpeleta ca i-ar fi refuzat un wildcard celor de la Kawa pt anul asta ce ar fi vrut sa intre cu echipa de sbk.

Cine stie daca intradevar asa o fi fost...pe de o parte as zice ca e bine sa se faca inlesniri daca un nou constructor vrea sa intre,dar pe partea ailalta nici ala sa nu intre cu o bicicleta cu motor - fa draq un prototip acolo ca esti ditai KHI - faci de la vapoare la sateliti samd,o motoreta e un fleac pt ei.

...asta daca intradevar asa s-a intamplat treaba si Kawa s-a milogit de el sa il lase sa se dea si ei pe un circuit cu baieti mari

[linoleu]

^^ De ce sa nu incerce cei de la Kawasaki? Daca faceau o cursa buna se puteau lauda ca uite, modelul de strada e umar la umar cu prototipurie MotoGP.... acesta poate fi chiar motivul pt care Ezpeleta sa nu vrea.

 

Testele facute cu proba de par depusa de Iannone au iesit negative. Cei de la Aprilia spun ca se bazeaza pe el pt acest sezon.

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/14/motogp/rivola-iannones-hair-sample-tested-negative-well-appeal-to-the-cas.html

 

[Method]

Acum 12 minute, linoleu a spus:

^^ De ce sa nu incerce cei de la Kawasaki? Daca faceau o cursa buna se puteau lauda ca uite, modelul de strada e umar la umar cu prototipurie MotoGP.... acesta poate fi chiar motivul pt care Ezpeleta sa nu vrea.

Pai poate tocmai de-asta...dar nush ce ar fi facut ei pe gume Michelin.Ca ei au timpi asa...dar pe alte gume fata de cei din motogp.Nu avem de unde sti.

Si pe de alta parte daca KHI intradevar vrea sa intre in gp,pai sa intre cum se intra nu asa,tiganeste,milogi.

[frigider]

Acum 1 oră, linoleu a spus:

^^ De ce sa nu incerce cei de la Kawasaki? Daca faceau o cursa buna se puteau lauda ca uite, modelul de strada e umar la umar cu prototipurie MotoGP.... acesta poate fi chiar motivul pt care Ezpeleta sa nu vrea.

hmmm nu impart niciun circuit comun SBK si GP?

daca da, putem sa ne uitam strict la timpi.

am zis ca nu-mi cade curu daca fac un mic efort, rezultatele m-au surprins.

 

Am luat phillip island ca asta e primul circuit comun pe care l-am observat:

gp

 

sbk

 

LOL

 

 

la rimini e mai mare diferenta..

gp

 

sbk

 

deci cum ai da-o cel mai bun din sbk e sub cel mai bun din gp..

cu toate astea poate ar iesi pe un loc bun.. 3-4-5-6?

[xt600]

Ca de obicei, Method vede lucrurile simplist si prost. Cred ca cei de la Kawa au dorit un wildcard pentru a vedea cam pe unde sunt in acest moment, fata de cei implicati in MotoGp si pentru a strange date pentru un eventual proiect MotoGp. Sa nu uitam ca lipsesc de foarte mult timp din campionat, caz in care trebuie sa porneasca de la ceea ce au in acest moment: bicla de WSBK. Sa faca un prototip MotoGp (adica o investitie de zeci de milioane de $), doar ca sa participe ca wildcard, este o idee care nu poate incolti decat in mintea creata a unui coleg... Big problem este ca don Carmelo pare ca nu agreeaza ideea de a mai veni un producator in competitie. Cica grila e full! Eventual, daca vor sa isi faca intrarea, ar trebui sa faca un contract cu o echipa de client deja prezenta in competitie, ceea ce este destul de dificil, in acest moment si nu stiu cat de fezabil este pentru uzina. 

Editat Februarie 18, 2020 de xt600

[Gixu.]

Zarco incearca gustul biucilor lui Lorenzo. Acesta din urma ii da un raspuns de milioane:)))

 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156576677287504&id=76784492503

[ioio_viola]

hai ca au analizat altii mai in detaliu: 

 

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/02/18/motogp/jonathan-rea-wild-card-in-motogp-ok-in-qualifying-distant-in-the-race.html

[TETEA.]

Acum 6 ore, Gixu. a spus:

Zarco incearca gustul biucilor lui Lorenzo. Acesta din urma ii da un raspuns de milioane:)))

 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156576677287504&id=76784492503

 

:)) I-a dat de l-a julit... :)))